Thanks for the ideas guys! This was the first time I have dealt with this dealer and honestly customer service was excellent, communication was good, shipping was fast, and tracking info was provided promptly. I researched Howe's feedback before I placed the order and did not find any negative.
I am probably just being picky, I realize this is a tool and while its not a super expensive knife like a full custom, its a relatively high priced knife as far as production knives go. Would someone off the street who is not a knife person pay $170, not likely, but they would also not see the benefits that you or I might.
I did not mean to come off as whiny I just like to get what I pay for and I think a lot of people are to accepting of blemishes now days and It's a problem to me. Maybe my expectations are to high, I love Spyderco, I think its a great company, Sal as far as owners go is top notch, and I have owned many many of their knives. That being said I have a few Kershaws that are well under the $100 mark, some around $50 that are nearly flawless, my other 2 para's are pretty much perfect as well, both costing just a shade under $100. I have many Spydercos that are nearly perfect and that's one reason I continue to purchase them, they are almost always shaving sharp out of the box as well. Granted I can sharpen a knife to a mirror polish on the edge pro in about 15-20 minutes but should I have to straight out of the box from a reputable company?
Yes it's likely the heat discolor would sharpen out in a few sharpening's, maybe even with some polishing although that has not been my experience with things I have ground. Should I have to remove material on my brand new knife to get it acceptable, I guess that's debatable but I would prefer not to have to? If the tip got hot did the rest of the knife? It would have to be tested, but that's one reason I buy quality knives, I trust the manufacturers to take care of that testing. This is my very first experience with that type of problem.
I probably just got a couple bad apples the last couple times, I realize it happens, it just kind of seems to happen to me on higher cost sprint run knives for some reason.
I would prefer not to sell the knife as I was hoping to try this steel, and this knife is fairly hard to get a hold of now. I bought it to carry for edge retention benefits over s30v, not to sell. It may annoy me enough that I may decide to sell it, that was not my plan when I started looking for this particular model though. I try to be extremely honest when I sell a knife on one of the other forums, should I have to say this knife is scratched, dented and poorly ground, but it's still nib. That's not a description I look for when buying a knife on the secondary market.
Granted If I would have received say a bad grind alone, or dents alone, it's likely I would have just kept my mouth shut, but there are several problems that made me look twice and pick things out.
Anyway here are a couple more pictures I snapped, they are good enough to get the idea of what I am talking about. The heat colored tip is incredibly hard to capture, but here's one of the drop off on the front of the blade and the scratches, scratches are on both sides of the blade. My other 2 para's touch the entire length if placed spine to spine or against a straight edge, this one drops off and there are 2 scratches near the spine. The lower marks are just smudges down near the bottom of the blade. I have been carrying an s30v para 2 daily for over a month now and I could see the drop in the tip of the Carpenter as soon as I opened the knife the first time, maybe its not as big of a deal to others as it is to me.
Straight grind on my black para 2 touches the entire length so does my other para 2 with the satin blade.
Pic of the dents, they don't look big but can certainly be felt when I run my finger across them. There are 3 on the front side, the one in the middle of the pic being the largest, followed by the one on the top right of the picture and 3 on the back side of the knife that are smaller.