Military : What could be better ?

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Military : What could be better ?

Postby geronm042 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:47 pm

Hi guys,

I got my first mili a fiew weeks ago (black blade / digo camo... Goooooorgious !).

I try to edc it as much as I can. I'm such a big fan of this knife which looks like the most perfect piece of design I have ever handle. So simple but so achieved in every way.

I've tried to search some threads or information on an hypothetic second version (when ? what ?) but ended up with tons of threads on the current version on the mili and PM.

So what would you guys consider as an improvement of this knife ?

My only points at the moment would be :
- Improving the handle shape close to the pivot in order to get a better access to the jimpings (the ones where the forefinger sits)
- Improving the blade / handle length ratio

PS : sorry if the question was already ask somewhere else... :rolleyes:

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Postby LeathermanFan » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:53 pm

The Ontario Rat 1 is suppose to be a great knife for people in the military.

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Postby Sequimite » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:01 pm

I haven't seen anything better if you live in an area where a 4" blade is legal. The lightness of the Military makes it easy to do fine work with that you would normally use a smaller blade for.
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Postby cr123 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:02 pm

What could make it better? Maybe one for each hand. :0)

I know some folks wanted the option to carry it tip up.

If anything, it would be nice to see more lefty variations. I EDC the lefty but would be nice for it to come in safety orange g-10.

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Postby chuck_roxas45 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:03 pm

geronm042 wrote:Military : What could be better ?
Two militaries. ;)
LeathermanFan wrote:The Ontario Rat 1 is suppose to be a great knife for people in the military.
What the heck are you talking about? The OP is asking about a specific model that spyderco makes. I guess you better lurk more and learn more and post less in the meantime.

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Postby mongatu » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:03 pm

What could be better? Use a better steel than S30V for the stock production model.
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Postby Jet B » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:41 pm

I'm betting that when the Military 2 comes out it will have a stop lock, 4 way clip, and the bushing pivot all similar to the Para 2 changes except the lock of course.

Knowing Spyderco, they will be subtle yet good changes. I hope they come out with the model soon.

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Postby LeathermanFan » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:04 pm

chuck_roxas45 wrote:What the heck are you talking about? The OP is asking about a specific model that spyderco makes. I guess you better lurk more and learn more and post less in the meantime.
To be honest, I just posted my response based on the thread title alone.

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Postby chuck_roxas45 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:26 pm

LeathermanFan wrote:To be honest, I just posted my response based on the thread title alone.
Obviously... :p

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Postby KBR » Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:39 pm

geronm042 wrote: So what would you guys consider as an improvement of this knife ?
IMO, along with the opinions of many other admirers of the Military, there shouldn't be any changes made to the current Millie....this Spyder is perfect. The only thing that would interest me has already been done.....using other steels in place of S30V(i.e. S90V, D2, etc.). I do believe that the current Military is so popular that even if/when Spyderco comes out with the Military 2, the original Military will still stay in production as well.
My only points at the moment would be :
- Improving the handle shape close to the pivot in order to get a better access to the jimpings (the ones where the forefinger sits)
- Improving the blade / handle length ratio
I'm curious.....how could the blade/handle length ratio be improved in your opinion? :confused: :confused:
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Postby MCM » Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:41 pm

Tip up option.
Relax the ball detent.
Deep pocket carry.
That's it.
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Postby HistoricalMan » Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:47 pm

LeathermanFan wrote:To be honest, I just posted my response based on the thread title alone.
:rolleyes:

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Postby insaneinmate » Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:41 pm

Thicker bulkier screws, different steel.

Thats it, Not much to change on an already near perfect folder with not much competition in regards to a being big lightweight slicer.
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Postby duvaldrummer » Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:54 am

I'd love to see, in addition to the changes you stated, a matte black 4 way pocket clip instead of the shiny black and a bigger lanyard hole. Other than that, its perfect!
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Postby jezabel » Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:46 am

The current Millie is as perfect as it's going to get. Don't change a thing.
Leave the four way clip and the rest of the hoopla for the impending Millie 2.

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Postby geronm042 » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:08 am

+1 for the thicker / top grade screws.

Not a big fan of deep carry on this one. Left handed OK, but I prefer the heavy duty clip and the way it is now, around the pivot, which provide a good grip to get the knife out of the pocket !

By handle / blade ratio length improvement, I meant that they should be a few mm to win on the blade now. But maybe it would make the tip to weak. I don't know, just a suggestion.

I'm not a big fan of the Ti version too. Heavier, a little less grip (and could get wet / slippy because of condensation when cold ?). But I'm dreaming to find the Ti / G-10 version in M4. Big fan of the frame lock here.

Also, just for the F&F, a very-little swedge (dragonfly-like) could be very nice :)

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Postby vega77 » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:22 am

Every knife can be improved. Even a good one like the Military.
Thicker screws
The spacer is plastic and the screws are metallic
Matte black pocket clip

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Postby wongKI » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:38 am

The Mili is an excellent knife. I got my orange Mili literally a month before the lefty version came out :(

There are few locks with the simplicity of the liner lock which are also ambidextrous, sadly, or that'd be my top call for an improvement. Other improvements:

-The back spacer replaced with pillars. I've seen this done, it looks great.
-A slight "swell" in the handles, so the scales aren't flat but a little domed. This wouldn't sacrifice much width and would look and feel even better.
-A permanent production S90V model, but here I'm just dreaming.

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Postby Piet.S » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:43 am

There is still quite a bit of tollerance between the pivot and the pivothole in the blade.
If you open the knife halfway, you can clearly feel it.
Luckely it's a linerlock so you don't notice it when locked open.
Also the detend is not perfect.
When in detend position, you can still push the blade into the handle a bit.
Not by much and also not a problem.
To call it perfect, these two things should be done better.
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Postby brj » Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:50 am

jezabel wrote:The current Millie is as perfect as it's going to get. Don't change a thing.
Leave the four way clip and the rest of the hoopla for the impending Millie 2.

J
^^ my thoughts exactly
I usually remove the backspacer and replace it with standoffs, but I can handle it myself, no need to bother the good folks at Spyderco with such a trivial issue :)
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