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China Syndrome

Postby gunnut35 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:20 pm

Today i finally had the chance to carry the Resilience and Persistence and i am really impressed, (i also had a kiwi on me). The fit and finish on these China made Spydercos are up there with all the Spydies, no mater where they are made. I always have liked the Tenacious but I have had 3 of them because it is always the one everyone wants so i have given them away as gifts. I know this has been covered alot about "China Made" but these knives are the best bargain of any knife on the market.
Let me know what you all think of these "Bargain" knives......
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Postby marknett » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:23 pm

There on my "gonna get" list.
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Postby chuck_roxas45 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:26 pm

The tenacious and persistence are in my "have" list. :D

Awesome knives, especially for the money.

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Postby araneae » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:33 pm

They are pretty unbeatable dollar for dollar. The Tenacious is a great design and apparently one of Spyderco's best sellers. I would like to grab a Resilience in the future.
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Postby Jay_Ev » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:16 pm

gunnut35 wrote:Let me know what you all think of these "Bargain" knives......
I think this series of knives is great and a tremendous value. I also think it's peoples prejudices moreso than it is a "syndrome".
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Postby racer88 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:25 pm

Ha... I wonder how many forumites here are old enough to get the movie reference in the thread title??? :)

I have a Tenacious and a Persistence. Amazing quality for the price. Can't say how the steel will hold up. But, I'm very impressed with the fit and finish.

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Postby chuck_roxas45 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:55 pm

racer88 wrote:Ha... I wonder how many forumites here are old enough to get the movie reference in the thread title??? :)
I, for one. :D

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Postby 2cha » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:13 am

Jay_Ev wrote: I also think it's peoples prejudices moreso than it is a "syndrome".
And for others, like me, there is the completely rational (though perhaps mistaken) belief that my country cannot be economically healthy without large numbers of domestic manufacturing jobs, and that the planet cannot be healthy when my country exports pollution (by buying goods produced in countries without significant environmental regulation).

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Postby jackknifeh » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:32 am

First of all Racer88, I am old enought. Thanks for the reminder. :)

I don't have the knives mentioned but I have a Byrd Wings that was made in China. I really like this knife. It is very durable. I use it as a "work" knife because of the cost value. I can beat it to death and not worry about loosing a lot of $. Even with the lower cost it holds up to everything I've put it through so far. I haven't come close to abusing it yet but I believe it could take at least a little abuse (by definition). Go China.

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Postby ChrisR » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:45 am

I have the tenacious and a few Byrd knives and they are very good indeed - incredible value for money.

I think any company that doesn't acknowledge the Chinese industrial juggernaut heading towards them is just going to get run over in the process. Chinese knives aren't for everyone but we can't stick our heads in the sand and hope that China will go away. The way for any manufacturing business to stay strong and compete with China is to retain it's distinctive identity and to manufacture high-end products at home but also to use the bits of China that will help it reach the lower, mass-retail end of the market too. This seems to be Spydercos strategy and I think they are spot on. :)
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Postby phillipsted » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:47 am

I've already put in my order for an Ambitious (the "baby" of the series). $23 for a knife of this quality is fantastic.

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Postby Morris » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:12 am

Spyderco just needs to admit that the Tenacious is just their "gateway drug"

to bigger and better offerings! :D


First time i saw the price for one i was sure it was a typo!

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Postby marknett » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:26 am

Why are so many people down on china imports . 90 percent of the stuff in your house is imported . So to complain about it here , you need to dump your t.v.'s, washer and dryer's , dishwashers , and oh no your computers and cell phones :eek: wait now you can't complain because you can't post ... :rolleyes:
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Postby THG » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:56 am

marknett wrote:Why are so many people down on china imports . 90 percent of the stuff in your house is imported . So to complain about it here , you need to dump your t.v.'s, washer and dryer's , dishwashers , and oh no your computers and cell phones :eek: wait now you can't complain because you can't post ... :rolleyes:
Once again... There isn't a single computer component that is made in America. We don't have a choice. On the other hand, there are many knives still made here in the USA.
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Postby captnvegtble » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:02 pm

THG wrote:Once again... There isn't a single computer component that is made in America. We don't have a choice. On the other hand, there are many knives still made here in the USA.
But... there are no Spyderco Tenacious' made in the United States!

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Postby THG » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:38 pm

captnvegtble wrote:But... there are no Spyderco Tenacious' made in the United States!
Well of course in that case, we're talking about one model, not "knives" in general. In the case of computers and computer components, every last model is made in china.
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Postby jzmtl » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:49 pm

marknett wrote:Why are so many people down on china imports . 90 percent of the stuff in your house is imported
Compare how many people I know I real life complains about it, and how many people online complains about it, I suspect it's a case of "squeaky wheel".

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Postby wsdavies » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:06 pm

Agreed...We live in an era of economic globalism. There is such thing as economic reality which is inherently based on human nature. Those businesses that fail to take this into account will be eaten up by those that do.
ChrisR wrote:I have the tenacious and a few Byrd knives and they are very good indeed - incredible value for money.

I think any company that doesn't acknowledge the Chinese industrial juggernaut heading towards them is just going to get run over in the process. Chinese knives aren't for everyone but we can't stick our heads in the sand and hope that China will go away. The way for any manufacturing business to stay strong and compete with China is to retain it's distinctive identity and to manufacture high-end products at home but also to use the bits of China that will help it reach the lower, mass-retail end of the market too. This seems to be Spydercos strategy and I think they are spot on. :)
Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.
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Postby wsdavies » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:08 pm

This I agree with too. For me, it all started with a Tenacious. Spending $100+ on a knife seemed crazy...now it seems like a good value.
Morris wrote:Spyderco just needs to admit that the Tenacious is just their "gateway drug"

to bigger and better offerings! :D


First time i saw the price for one i was sure it was a typo!
Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.
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Postby ToneGrail » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:24 pm

Just got the Resilience and I have to say it's one heck of a knife. It's the biggest folder I've ever owned and worth every penny.

I've been EDCing the Tenacious for about a year now and have put it through some really heavy use. So far it's held up fantastically. It's my work horse.


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