I didn't want to hi-jack another thread so I copied the post out here.
cgjones wrote:I have a few newer Pacific Salts and both the pivot and rocker bar pins have been replaced with screws.
So seeing this picture is this an aftermarket mod or is Spyderco now starting to slowly move some of the pinned pivot models over to screwed adjustable pivots?
Thanks!
"I'm calling YOU ugly, I could push your face in some dough and make gorilla cookies." -Fred Sanford
That's great to hear. Yet another improvement. I'm gonna have to call knifeworks.com and see what they have in stock with a pivot screw instead of a pin. :)
Thanks folks!
"I'm calling YOU ugly, I could push your face in some dough and make gorilla cookies." -Fred Sanford
I think the pinned model might be preferable in situations where you might not be able to perform routine maintenance for some reason. Like thru-hiking the AT or climbing Everest or similar activities.
Lord vader wrote:I like the idea of converting pinned models over to screwed pivots.But would it be a disadvantage with the salt models?Screws corroding perhaps?
While I'm among those who prefer the simplicity and reliability of riveted construction, I'd be inclined to think Spyderco would be using screws with no greater potential for rusting than the rivets they're replacing.
The Deacon wrote:While I'm among those who prefer the simplicity and reliability of riveted construction, I'd be inclined to think Spyderco would be using screws with no greater potential for rusting than the rivets they're replacing.
I didn`t think of it that way.Thanks deacon, you are the voice of reason. :)
marlinspike wrote:I view the screws as an improvement for the simple reasons that damaged blades can be replaced, and off center blades can be centered.
Spyderco has never sold blades for any of their knives which use screws. Am curious as to why you think they'd start doing that now.
Awesome change.
My Pac Salt has uncorrectable side to side play while my Spyderhawk is like a bank-vault. You just never know with pins. They're a hassle to adjust, and sometimes cant be adjusted, i.e. my Pac Salt.
The Deacon wrote:Spyderco has never sold blades for any of their knives which use screws. Am curious as to why you think they'd start doing that now.
I think what he means that if the knife has to be sent in for blade replacement, then it becomes a lot easier to do so at the factory.
I had started a thread asking this same question a week or two ago and apprently it is a rolling change being implemented by Spyderco on at least some of their pinned models. I just purchased a brand-new black-bladed Pacific that has the new screw construction.
I view this change positively as it now allows users to adjust the blade tension to their individual liking. I see another plus with this as well, as the blade can be removed to more effectively clean-out the pivot area, something that has always aggravated those with pin-fastened handles and blades in the past.
JBE wrote:I think what he means that if the knife has to be sent in for blade replacement, then it becomes a lot easier to do so at the factory.
Again though, Spyderco's normal response to that, assuming it was a warranty issue and the model was still in production, would be to send the person a new knife. If it was not a warranty issue, they'd either regrind the blade or tell the customer the knife was beyond repair.
Those of you who have the newer screw pivots: Did the knives come from the factory with any kind of thread sealant? Every Endura/Delica 4 and Stretch I've had did not, and the pivot screw would back out with repeated openings and closings. One knife I had, even had the lockbar pivot screw back out and fall off. This only seems to affect the Seki-made FRN models in my experience.
I can see this being an issue with users who expect a maintenance free knife, or at least a knife that didn't require the user to apply loctite right away as a preventative measure.
The Deacon wrote:Spyderco has never sold blades for any of their knives which use screws. Am curious as to why you think they'd start doing that now.
I was thinking more in the case of sending in a knife for repair. BM will replace a blade. Does Spyderco not?
The Deacon wrote:Again though, Spyderco's normal response to that, assuming it was a warranty issue and the model was still in production, would be to send the person a new knife. If it was not a warranty issue, they'd either regrind the blade or tell the customer the knife was beyond repair.
Saw this reply after posting my reply. Wow. Disappointing to hear that. I guess that's part of why BMs cost more.
Some pinned knives now have screwed pivots?
