How much better as a slicer is the new ffg endura?

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How much better as a slicer is the new ffg endura?

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I'm wondering how good the new ffg endura is as a slicer. The regular endura did nothing for me with it's grind and fairly thick and short (edge to spine) blade.

I'm looking for a folder to easily pack away with camping gear for food duty. Something fairly inexpensive since I plan on keeping it packed away and only used for that purpose. Considered the stretch, but still not a big fan of the blade shape.
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I can tell you it's a night and day difference
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The FFG G-10 E4 cut through a 2" sprinkler system hose like a breeze for me!

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The flat grind makes a big difference. It's a real slicer now. I carry mine all the time now.
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Big enough difference that it got me carrying an E4 again!

As an example, cutting slices off of an apple moving the blade towards your thumb in a reverse grip, the regular blade E4 required so much force it was dangerous.
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I'm looking for a folder to easily pack away with camping gear for food duty. Something fairly inexpensive since I plan on keeping it packed away and only used for that purpose. Considered the stretch, but still not a big fan of the blade shape.
The Centofante 3 with its thin blade (2mm only, if I remember well) is very good at food duty.
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The Endura 4 FFG may have been the worst decision Spyderco ever made. This knife performs on par with some of the much more expensive offerings (such as the Military that I am so fond of).

Truly a remarkable knife and perhaps even more remarkable when paired with ZDP-189. Add to that the VASTLY under-rated lock and fantastic versatility of a 4 clip position, and you simply must have one.

Just kidding about the "worst decision" thing, but there is a hint of truth in that I have stopped buying Militaries and started buying up Enduras.
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I don't know if the FFG on the endura will work for me the way I use my regular E4. I sometimes dig around mango tree roots with it and cut off diseased roots. I also use the tip with some bamboo work on my nipa(thatched roof) and bamboo hut. I'd like the slicing power but I also need a robust blade. Maybe I should just try how it works for me. That's how I have to convince my wife.
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It's definitely two different camps. So many people seem so caught up on FFG. I do prefer it's looks and overall slicing, but they are nowhere as robust as the scandi-grind for hard use. If I'm going to be slicing alot of things I'll choose one of my FFG knives, otherwise if there is a chance the blade will be twisting or a little prying I'll pick a hollow or scandi. Guess that's why I like to carry two knives.
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That's probably because most people's EDC tasks are just cutting and slicing. I would think that only a relatively small percentage use their knives hard. Maybe that is what a lot of customers want and so this trend towards lighter and less hard use folders.
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The Pacific Salt is also a great choice for what you stated.

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I don't like pinned construction and no liners.
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Knives are meant to cut things not pry and dig.

If you want a knife to do that buy a Manix2 for $65 and beat the bejezus out of it. It's FAR tougher than any Endura or Delica with a saber grind ever was...you can literally chop and baton with it. For half the price something with a hollow grind like the Flight or Crossbill are tanks (albeit, slightly less tanky than the M2).

For the fancy folks something like a Gayle Bradley seems extremely robust.

Better yet, buy a garden trowel ;) . When those chip and rust it doesn't make me cry.
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And that's why I have a manix 2 on order. However, my E4 handles the job well, albeit I need to sharpen often. Unfortunately, we here have to pay MSRP, or If ordering online have to pay through the nose for shipping which brings the price almost to MSRP and risk losing the item to customs. I find the price point of the Endura fits me and I like the robustness of saber grind and screw construction so I can clean it thoroughly when needed. And BTW, I was not asking for a recommendation, I was stating an opinion. For slicing food, I have my tenacious and my military.
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Blerv wrote:Knives are meant to cut things not pry and dig.

If you want a knife to do that buy a Manix2 for $65 and beat the bejezus out of it. It's FAR tougher than any Endura or Delica with a saber grind ever was...you can literally chop and baton with it. For half the price something with a hollow grind like the Flight or Crossbill are tanks (albeit, slightly less tanky than the M2).

For the fancy folks something like a Gayle Bradley seems extremely robust.

Better yet, buy a garden trowel ;) . When those chip and rust it doesn't make me cry.
If prying and digging happen to be involved in what I'm cutting, then my knife will have to take the beating. My knives are tools and they will be treated as such. They will not be coddled and treated like they are made of glass. Will I pry and twist with the tip of my Military or Sage? Probably not, that is why I carry a beater Delica 4.
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TooSharp wrote:If prying and digging happen to be involved in what I'm cutting, then my knife will have to take the beating. My knives are tools and they will be treated as such. They will not be coddled and treated like they are made of glass. Will I pry and twist with the tip of my Military or Sage? Probably not, that is why I carry a beater Delica 4.
Beaters for the win.
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chuck_roxas45 wrote:And BTW, I was not asking for a recommendation, I was stating an opinion. For slicing food, I have my tenacious and my military.
Post Deleted: Why even bother?

Have fun with you knives. Do what makes you happy and buy extras of what you like. I hope that didn't sound like a recommendation.
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Blerv wrote:If you want a knife to do that buy a Manix2 for $65[...]
Wow, where are you buying your Manixs? :D Cheapest I've found is $74 on Amazon.com. A point in the direction to the cheaper site would be much appreciated. ;)
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Simsmac wrote:Wow, where are you buying your Manixs? :D Cheapest I've found is $74 on Amazon.com. A point in the direction to the cheaper site would be much appreciated. ;)
I think I just got lucky with the first shipment on Ebay. It might have been closer to $68 with shipping. :)
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Blerv wrote:I think I just got lucky with the first shipment on Ebay. It might have been closer to $68 with shipping. :)
Ah, darn it. I now see a couple for around $70 on Ebay, but I'd rather just spend a couple extra dollars so I don't have to deal with the potentially shady goings-on of Ebay...
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