nozh2002 wrote:Well in short you are simple not qualified to talk about steel.
This thread has become Vassili's greatest hits.
nozh2002 wrote:This is like saying - Ferrary is piece of crap because I do not know how to drive it and three wheeler is my best pal...
This is incorrect. Nowhere did I say that ZDP is "crap." I believe what I *did* say was that it's better than S30V, just as you say. I then went on to explain why it doesn't work better for me in practice despite being better, and I admitted that the fault lies with me and not the steel. I don't really know what you want from me here, all you did was say what I said back at me but rephrased to be abusive to me. I'm not trying to BS you and tell you how experienced and knowledgeable and skilled I am, I'm being straight with you and admitting I have limitations that you don't, and that you have capabilities that I don't, and that these differences between us create differences in our preferences. So why be an arse about it.
nozh2002 wrote:In this case why do you even open your mouth? Let people who know what they talking about discuss this. I guess people ask questions hoping to get answer from expert not someone who just need to learn a lot, first?
That's a good idea! Vassili, are you turning over a new leaf with this abrubt 180º change in the direction of your standard policy?!
nozh2002 wrote:So what you saying is that CPM S30V is good enough to you because you can not manage anything better.
No, what I'm saying is that S30V has surprised me by working the best for the way I use and treat steel, even better than steels that are technically better. To use your previous analogy, the fact that Ferrari's exist doesn't mean no one is allowed to drive a Honda due to it being inferior; it may be inferior, but the service it provides won't be inferior for all people.
nozh2002 wrote:This is why I ask about what is your experience and this clear things up just perfectly.
Well good, so you understand that I'm a normal person with average skills who isn't interested in worshipping or trashing a steel based on its performance in one amateur enthusiast's testing.
nozh2002 wrote:I guess I in similar situation do not blame steel that it is too good, but rather learn how to handle it - believe me this is not rocket science.
Again, I did not blame the steel, I blamed myself. I'm glad we're in agreement that I'm at fault, but that doesn't change the fact that ZDP doesn't work well for me due to a Real Reason that exists in Reality. So then what part of "I agree that ZDP is technically better" do you not understand? Is your issue really only with me, you don't like that I don't like what you like? This is sad and getting sadder.
nozh2002 wrote:Well again the fact that you say that one steel is more difficult to sharpen then other kind of simptomatic to me. I can sharpen any steel in same time and see no difference.
You're a self styled expert on the minute differences between steels, but you see no difference in how they sharpen? Even an inexperienced dummy like me who's unqualified to open my mouth in public on the subject of steel can plainly see differences in the way steels sharpen, so I find this difficult to believe. I suppose it's possible, but it sure suggests your experience is far outside the norm.
nozh2002 wrote:CPM S60V may be less tough on some lab tests, but I never hear about any problems with it.
Oh, well then, lab tests
. I guess who cares about what some lab tests
say if they conflict with user experience, right? Right? Get it? Haha! Get it? Nudge nudge, get it? Ha, get it, Vassili? Am I right?! Heh.... whew, sigh.
nozh2002 wrote:It was not me who brought up "shoe bang" into discussion. This directly targeted my Russian origin, which at least disrespectful if not more.
Actually, you have a Russian sounding name, but I don't think you've ever explicitly said that you're Russian. I was under the impression that you live somewhere around Oregon for some reason, and I have no idea what your history is beyond that, aside from the clues in the way you talk. If you are indeed Russian, then Moonbat's Krushchev comparison is all the more on point, but really the comparison works even if you're not because the way you communicate just sounds like Kruschev banging a shoe and trying to be heard. And, truth be told, that combined with your prominent use of your name in every post makes me seriously wonder if the whole thing is a put on. But your tests seem real as far as I can tell, so at this point I still mostly think you're legit.
All the same, yes I agree that what's been said has been disrespectful to you. However...
dj moonbat wrote:Your style is abusive, and deserves ridicule.
That's exactly it. Vassili, you're a bully who shows no respect to anyone who doesn't toe your line of thought. Respect is generally something you can only receive by giving; if you want respectful treatment, give it to others.
nozh2002 wrote:It looks like Janich taking too much responsibility in Spyderco - from Warranty Policy to Political Censorship. Who he think he is?
He thinks he's Michael Janich!! (He was humble in his response, so someone had to say it.
Ok there we go, I've explained my thoughts to him twice now. Another 8 to 20 times and this'll all be settled, judging by the warranty thread.
I could really use a sandwich now....