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Looking for a thread on Serrated vs. Plain Edges.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:59 pm
by FIMS
Ive done a search and I just cannot find it. Im sure I remember seeing a thread here a while ago when I was lurking that discussed the validity between Full Serrated Blades vs. Plain Edge Blades.

Im more interested in whether there is anything said about SE and PE Hawkbill blades.

Any pointers.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:38 pm
by The Deacon
Might want to look at some of the threads this search brought back.

Those are the threads from the past year, in General Discussion, with more than 10 replies, and "serrated" in the title.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:52 pm
by ChaosSpear
While I don't Have any guide or article on serrated and plain edges, I can give you my accumulated thoughts on this.

This all refers to camping chores and requirements, as it is the great outdoors where I find my knives with the most action. I have gone through a variety of tasks where my plain edge benefits, such as whittling wood, breaking sticks for firestarters, and cutting rope/line/duct tape.

There were some tasks such as thick sticks and rope that I needed to work through, and serrations would have greatly helped, but I managed. I also used my knife to eat with, by slicing apples or cutting burgers/ dogs and the plain edge was perfect.

As for combo edge, it seems like there is not enough serrations to use very well, and impacts slicing area as well. But maybe with enough use I could grow to love the combo edge.

I hope this makes sense and you found it useful for what you need.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:34 pm
by yablanowitz
Normally, I prefer plain edges for my work knives, but I find that serrations work better on the hawkbills. YMMV.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:16 pm
by sarguy
Was it pertaining to self defense uses? I had a thread titled something like "combo edge and MBC" a while back where the two types of edges were discussed a bit.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:58 pm
by npueppke
I would imagine that a serrated hawkbill would cut like crazy. One of the advantage of a hawkbill is that it pulls whatever it is you're cutting into the blade as you cut, and if you combine that effect with the additional force concentration serrations provide you end up with a huge amount of force being transmitted through the very small area on the teeth of the serrations.

But... I think such a blade would be very very limited, and PE hawkbills cut like crazy to begin with.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:11 pm
by Clawhammer
....I love Serrated edges so much.....even my house keys are SE :)

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:58 pm
by FIMS
Im wondering why my "Search" doesn't bring these up?

Ive got some reading up to do.
Was it pertaining to self defense uses? I had a thread titled something like "combo edge and MBC" a while back where the two types of edges were discussed a bit.
You got a link SarGuy?

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:59 pm
by FIMS
Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.
Thats what I get.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:34 pm
by DMgangl

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:25 am
by FIMS
I keep coming across the acronym MBC or MBC/SD. Im assuming the SD is Self Defence, but what is MBC?

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:34 am
by Doc Pyres
FIMS wrote:I keep coming across the acronym MBC or MBC/SD. Im assuming the SD is Self Defence, but what is MBC?
MBC = martial blade craft

From the Spyderco website:

Glossary:
Martial Blade Craft (MBC)

MBC is the practice of combative arts for self-protection, physical conditioning and control and coordination of the body. MBC's ultimate goal is to train professionals to "stop the bad guy from hurting innocents."

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:40 am
by FIMS
Roger that.