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making progress with the 204

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 1:00 am
by minimarc123
Yah, so I've been practising on the 204 Sharpmaker, and I can get an edge sharp enough to shave on both sides of the blade (but only in the flat part, still working on the curve and tip).



With this edge, I can slice through cardboard easily, for about 6-7 6" lengths by pushing straight down in the same spot. after the 6-7 the next 5 or so become tough, and I have to put more force into it, then by about 10-15 it becomes so hard the cardboard will compress, but not cut.



Then, all I need to do is about 10 strokes on each side, on my jeans, and it's just as sharp as when I started.



Is this because: 1) I have a wire edge which I'm straightening out with my jeans? 2) I'm actually dulling the knife and re-sharpening it on my jeans? 3) Other?



BTW: this is ats-34 steel on the wegner jr, and the edge may not be perfectly centered, because I did a lot more work on one side to develop a burr at the beginning.



Thanks!



-map

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 5:46 pm
by yog
Cardboard is surprisingly abrasive, some people actually use it for stropping their blades. The best knife I have found for breaking down cardboard boxes is a fully serrated Harpy ... nice <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

What you are probably doing with stropping on the jeans (yep, some people do use their jeans for stropping) is realigning the edge.

I prefer a straight smooth steel for realigning. Baically what it is doing is extending the life of the edge before it needs re-sharpening. Being ham fisted when sharpening I find steeling and edge aligning a must for that extra fine edge.

There's a hole in the sky where the rain comes in, it's a very small hole that's why rain's so thin - In memory of the Goons

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 8:14 pm
by minimarc123
But is there a way to get the edge to hold up a lot longer?

-marc

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2002 10:45 am
by sam the man..
practise makes perfect dude! <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0><img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0><img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

Sam

have surgical scars will travel..

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2002 3:31 pm
by thorin hammer
Great info RYAN! Thanks.

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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2002 4:23 pm
by vampyrewolf
Actually, for a long time use edge, I found if you sharpen to a 30 for a fine edge, then do 3-4 stokes on the mediums at 40, you can use it hard dialy, and only touch it up every week or so.

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