In general that is true... However I was in the club when I had to get the Forrester (at $300+ dollars) and and I think another knife was shipped with it.JspyEDC wrote:the new model only membership is not. But we still hear .."Oh my God, I have to buy a Jumpmaster? I don't jump out of planes!"
That's one of the questions I hope this thread will shed some light on. I think it's safe to say that, as with pretty much everything, the "what" will not be the same for all the members. We've determined rather quickly, and not terribly surprisingly, that some consider the engraved number on each knife to be a major part of the attraction.npueppke wrote:What is the appeal of the collectors club other than having every knife engraved with a number? I could see a slight appeal if you get the knives earlier than everyone else, but it seems rather pointless otherwise... if you aren't interested in the engraving, you might as well just buy the knives you want, then, instead of being committed to buy every knife.
As I understand it, the only knives that get numbered are the ones for numbers currently "owned" by someone. So, assuming I have it right, once you opted for "main only", there should have been no more variants engraved with 042V. I believe that's true for "main" models as well. Again assuming I'm correct, if you were to leave the club there would be no 042 knives at all, unless and until someone else picked up the number.freeman7 wrote:Good thread; it is making me re-think the whole CC idea. When Spyderco changed their policy on allowing all variant members to opt out of certain offerings and choose either all or main models, I chose main only. So there are lots of "42V" knives out there in Spydieland. Since I do not "own" my number, does that dilute the worth of my collection either to me personally or in the marketplace? Do the numbers really mean anything at all? Maybe all I really want is to be assured of getting in on limited deals like proof runs or sprints.
I'd say in general that's correct, Ryan.rycen wrote:The collector numbers dont increase the value at all unless maybe you had a complete set of a certain model.If then the increase would be minimal.
Might work if the "main" knife were changed to PE, (unless the majority of club members actually favor serrated). Depends a bit on how you envision your next idea would work.rodd wrote:1A. Discontinue all variants as part of the collectors club. Only main knifes would be required to be purchased as part of the club.
If by that you mean they would get them with their number, and/or have preferred status, it sounds good, otherwise not so much.rodd wrote:1B. If a person wanted a variant or all variants they could arrange purchase from their dealer.
Why the limit? Not saying it's a bad idea, just curious as to your reasoning.rodd wrote:2. As today all members of the collectors club would have a number which would be engraved on the knife blade. Hold membership to 200 as today.
Can't speak for anyone else, but assuming that would guarantee #4, and that #1B includes at least "first refusal" on all variants, I'd go for it.rodd wrote:3. All members would pay annual dues of $40.00 per year.
I would assume that's what the membership fee is intended to guarantee. Just not sure if the math would work for Spyderco. $8K isn;'t all that much, and that assumes all 200 slots would be filled.rodd wrote:4. Collectors Club knives would be shipped to dealers first. No excuses on this, even if you need a second part time engraver. This would make knives available to CC members first.
I think they are interested in this whole discussion per se, if I understand TazKristi's post correctly. So I'd think you should continue to think and write about your thoughts.... Unfortunately, I live in the wrong country and/or have some budget restrictions that keep me from getting a number in that club - for now. But that doesn't mean I am not listeningrodd wrote:MARKG
The $ I see for Spyderco to recoup some of the expense to get the CC members their knives first.
Deacon
You raise some good points. Before I go any further I would like to hear what Spyderco has to say or if they are even interested in the suggestions I listed.
Rod
There are some interesting thoughts, like a special CC model and the change from the all variants/new model alternatives to something more variable and less $$$-intensive (since there are just to much models coming out every year to be affordable to ordinary people with ordinary salaries). I look forward to the results of this thread! Exactly. They are listening and, I'm sure, are as or more interested in our reactions to each others ideas as they are to the ideas themselves. I think there's a fairly general agreement that the current system is "broken", in that it is not really serving any of the "stakeholders", Spyderco, the dealers, or the members, as well as it should. So, the more ideas we bounce off each other, the more opportunity they have to see what "we" might be happier with, and the more chance there will be one they feel can be refined into something which will work better for all the parties involved.Murdoc wrote:I think they are interested in this whole discussion per se, if I understand TazKristi's post correctly. So I'd think you should continue to think and write about your thoughts....
Dennis
