salsa????.....PEW!!!
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wiley sharp
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salsa????.....PEW!!!
who has been turned off to the salsa.... i hate it!!! yuck! god forbid that I ever talk this way about a spydie, but the "Cobra Hood"? what happened to good construction? its even made in Tiwan, for god sakes!!! sorry, but I feel that that knife should be disbanded. bbbbbbbbbbbbbbllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaah!
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Dude:
I too, like Kahz, have only seen the Salsa in pictures. I know, for one, that a knife CANNOT be judged by a mere photo. I remember a long time ago thinking how "ugly" the Calypso Jr. was, and until I held one, I didn't know what I was missing out on. It all goes back to the old saying, "You can't judge a book by its cover."
As far as the "Made in Taiwan" stamp, I almost have to disagree with you. What if all the previous Spyderco knives were made in Taiwan and all of a sudden, they decided to pump out a production line from Japan. Would you have the same feelings about this as you do now about "chinese made" knives?
Now, the beauty of living in the 'good old US of A' is that you can have your own opinions, which, I will respect. Hey, I have mine, too!<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
In closing, just don't buy one. That's it. Its that simple.....<img src="tongue.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
Take care!
~Spydernut
I too, like Kahz, have only seen the Salsa in pictures. I know, for one, that a knife CANNOT be judged by a mere photo. I remember a long time ago thinking how "ugly" the Calypso Jr. was, and until I held one, I didn't know what I was missing out on. It all goes back to the old saying, "You can't judge a book by its cover."
As far as the "Made in Taiwan" stamp, I almost have to disagree with you. What if all the previous Spyderco knives were made in Taiwan and all of a sudden, they decided to pump out a production line from Japan. Would you have the same feelings about this as you do now about "chinese made" knives?
Now, the beauty of living in the 'good old US of A' is that you can have your own opinions, which, I will respect. Hey, I have mine, too!<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
In closing, just don't buy one. That's it. Its that simple.....<img src="tongue.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
Take care!
~Spydernut
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I haven't handled the salsa, but I have to say that the pictures turn me right off... as my first season checking out Spyderco knives, I found them either unique, interesting, or ugly. Those are all good, IMHO... but it seems that the new season's knives are full of color, and little features, and "cobra hoods" (kinda ironic to have a back-up if you miss the hole, yet this hole is so raved about, and I have never once had a problem missing it).
So, it's alright that these knives look kinda funky, and like toys... I can accept that, but then they put the word "SALSA" on the knife... Give me a break! No one cares to know that your knife has a name, to match it's funky features and colors.
I personnaly would like to see more metal and/or black knives for the future, and have some variety on size, shape, blade material, or handle material... instead of color, phantom locks, cobra hoods, and having words written on knifes
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So, it's alright that these knives look kinda funky, and like toys... I can accept that, but then they put the word "SALSA" on the knife... Give me a break! No one cares to know that your knife has a name, to match it's funky features and colors.
I personnaly would like to see more metal and/or black knives for the future, and have some variety on size, shape, blade material, or handle material... instead of color, phantom locks, cobra hoods, and having words written on knifes
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Wiley Sharp and minimarc123,
Yeah, sure, some of the Spydies are a bit less than stunning on the eye. And like others have kindly pointed out, this particular Spyderco design serves a target performance niche, and until you handle one, you won't really know if it speaks to you or not. As SpyderNut pointed out, don't profile a product's worth by where it is manufactured-not in this day and age anyway. It is a well designed, carefully specified tool made from quality materials; just like all Spydercos are.
But you two are digging a hole sort of. The owner of Spyderco designed this knife himself. In fact he liked the design enough to put his own name on each one SALS-A. So before you go too much further bashing it, you may want to consider all the good advise on this thread some more. And I'm not telling you what to do, just thought you'd perhaps not known about the SALSA name and the SAL G. connection. Of course you could both buy one of each color SALSA to make up for this and write raving reviews and get back in the good graces..(just kidding).
Yeah, sure, some of the Spydies are a bit less than stunning on the eye. And like others have kindly pointed out, this particular Spyderco design serves a target performance niche, and until you handle one, you won't really know if it speaks to you or not. As SpyderNut pointed out, don't profile a product's worth by where it is manufactured-not in this day and age anyway. It is a well designed, carefully specified tool made from quality materials; just like all Spydercos are.
But you two are digging a hole sort of. The owner of Spyderco designed this knife himself. In fact he liked the design enough to put his own name on each one SALS-A. So before you go too much further bashing it, you may want to consider all the good advise on this thread some more. And I'm not telling you what to do, just thought you'd perhaps not known about the SALSA name and the SAL G. connection. Of course you could both buy one of each color SALSA to make up for this and write raving reviews and get back in the good graces..(just kidding).
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wiley sharp
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yes, I have handled a salsa. its not the fact that its made in tiwan that bothers me. I catch a lot of flack from buck, and leatherman people about having a knife thats made in japan. you see, people have always been alittle sketchy about foreign quality. so, its the fact that not many people will buy it because it is made in china, like all the fake spydies that they see in gas stations. if its there first time seeing a spydie, then they automatically call it cheap and get slapped by me. many people argue about "good American make" me, any thing can be just as good if its made anywhere else.
next, the Cobra Hood. never, ever have I liked anything bolted on the blade of my knife to hamper the stab or streamline of the blade. the cobra hood sticks up, sticks out, and is too bulky on the blade. thats why I switched from buck to spyderco. the hole instead of the thumb bud. too many times have I seen the thumb bud come off. i live by this standard: "if its not part of the blade, it will break"
thanks, Wiley
next, the Cobra Hood. never, ever have I liked anything bolted on the blade of my knife to hamper the stab or streamline of the blade. the cobra hood sticks up, sticks out, and is too bulky on the blade. thats why I switched from buck to spyderco. the hole instead of the thumb bud. too many times have I seen the thumb bud come off. i live by this standard: "if its not part of the blade, it will break"
thanks, Wiley
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LOL sharp1
I was considering making a nice, sentsitive letter about the salsa... but I thought it would be out of place, because I don't think anyone will take my oppinion seriously, and know nothing about the quality of the knife. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I like ugly black and metal knives, with nothing fancy. I found most spydercos to fit into that categorie, except these new ones which I personnaly don't like that sort of look on a knife.
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I was considering making a nice, sentsitive letter about the salsa... but I thought it would be out of place, because I don't think anyone will take my oppinion seriously, and know nothing about the quality of the knife. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I like ugly black and metal knives, with nothing fancy. I found most spydercos to fit into that categorie, except these new ones which I personnaly don't like that sort of look on a knife.
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I'm holding my final opinion until I see and hold a Salsa... However, based on what I've seen so far... I can't imagine buying one! I hope I'm in the minority on this one, but this thread seems to support my initial opinion.
From reading some of the messages above I sense that some feel nothing negative should be said abnout Spydies. Personaly I think Sal would welcome honest praise or criticism from the forumites. A solely mutual praise group will not help Spyderco. Keep it impersonal, but keep it honest... both with likes and dislikes. That's the best help (other than buying knives) we can provide.
Gary
"a Spydie in your hand is worth two in the bush"
Edited by - Gary on 2/12/2002 5:57:35 PM
From reading some of the messages above I sense that some feel nothing negative should be said abnout Spydies. Personaly I think Sal would welcome honest praise or criticism from the forumites. A solely mutual praise group will not help Spyderco. Keep it impersonal, but keep it honest... both with likes and dislikes. That's the best help (other than buying knives) we can provide.
Gary
"a Spydie in your hand is worth two in the bush"
Edited by - Gary on 2/12/2002 5:57:35 PM
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I have to disagree with you naysayers. I just got mine today and it is a very nice little knife. It feels great in hand and locks up like a bank vault. It has a very chunky blade with a whole lot of belly. The cobrahood is a nice accessory and is only where your thumb makes contact with the top of the blade. The profile of the handle is awesome and feels like it was custom made for my hand. The only flaw is that a small part of the edge comes in contact with the barrel bolt that holds the clip in. I really like the new wire clip design. It is almost a mini temperance.
Hi Kevin,
Welcome to the Spyderco Forum.
A couple of notes I would like to add to this discussion:
1. The diameter of the barrel bolts is being decreased in the next run. Sometimes there are small glitches with new models, but a fix is already in the works.
2. The last delay on the Ti Salsas is that they were being resharpened because of the barrel bolt problem. They should be shipping next week.
Welcome to the Spyderco Forum.
A couple of notes I would like to add to this discussion:
1. The diameter of the barrel bolts is being decreased in the next run. Sometimes there are small glitches with new models, but a fix is already in the works.
2. The last delay on the Ti Salsas is that they were being resharpened because of the barrel bolt problem. They should be shipping next week.
Carlos,
Will the resharpening of the Ti blades and the larger barrel bolts make the 'first run' blades smaller, or is it insignificant?
Also you did a quite complete review on the salsa. Made my think more about it. I was wondering if you think it would be a good size for a teenager? Primarily for my Boy Scout son. Not quite adult sized with smaller hands that will be growing.
Thanks
Chris
Will the resharpening of the Ti blades and the larger barrel bolts make the 'first run' blades smaller, or is it insignificant?
Also you did a quite complete review on the salsa. Made my think more about it. I was wondering if you think it would be a good size for a teenager? Primarily for my Boy Scout son. Not quite adult sized with smaller hands that will be growing.
Thanks
Chris
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Boxer93- As a former Scout myself, I can probably pass along a few ideas as to what your son would like, and what would be accepted.
First off, I would say that the Salsa is just about the right size and shape to be an excellent utility knife, for any age. However, personal likes and dislikes come into play.
Another good choice would be a PE Delica. It's a good, hard-working knife with forgiving steel. Excellent choice for general use.
A third good choice would be the SpydeRench. As anyone who's survived many moons at camp will say, a good multi-tool is priceless. The fact that it's Spyderco seals the deal.
There's three good choices, each with it's own high points. You'll have to weigh the need and likes, and whichever you pick is certain to please! <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
Keepin' it real...real sharp, that is.
First off, I would say that the Salsa is just about the right size and shape to be an excellent utility knife, for any age. However, personal likes and dislikes come into play.
Another good choice would be a PE Delica. It's a good, hard-working knife with forgiving steel. Excellent choice for general use.
A third good choice would be the SpydeRench. As anyone who's survived many moons at camp will say, a good multi-tool is priceless. The fact that it's Spyderco seals the deal.
There's three good choices, each with it's own high points. You'll have to weigh the need and likes, and whichever you pick is certain to please! <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
Keepin' it real...real sharp, that is.