AG! I just lost a message I typed out for like 1/2 hour, because of some crazy error.
**deep breaths**
Anyway... the just of the message was a whole bunch of questions about the Mouse, and some comparisons to other knives, which are like half the price.
I returned my calypso jr. due to bladeplay, and they are all out, so I need to get something else. I can get stuff in canadian prices @ knifesite.com
Basically, I asked: How does it compare to other knives, in terms of the hollow grind vs flat grind (even though hollow gring isn't like a razor, will it still perform tasks alright?), regular shape of blade vs this drop point one (if the drop point will be as aggressive on stuff like plasic packages, cardboard, tape, string, rope, etc.), slipperyness of the handle, and (this is a long shot) but, do you think I'd be able to cut food with it, like fruit (I want to be able to cut off apple slices, because I have braces), veggies, and steak? YAh, one of my top priorities is being able to cut slices off of an apple, without a table... I guess the nouse wouldn't do the best job, huh?
And most inmporantly, will it stay stiff like a rock in the open position. Like, with NO up or down wiggling, and no signifigant movement side to side? Are there other small knives that would stay stiffer? Will it stay solid for 70+ years?
Thanks so much to the guy (sorry, forget your name) that made the mouse vs navigator review, it was great! And I hate you Kahz, for making me want one of these (****, you ought to be making commision off these mice)
Thanks a lot
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Bwahahahaha!!!! *evil laugh* I am so eeeevil!!!! *Dr. Evil's voice*
My opinion: This little knife is made to last decades. No blade play so far in mine, and I use it continuously. I do not work for money, since it would be illegal, but rather as a volunteer in several places, and I get to cut a bunch of stuff like paper, cardboard, and plastic, so I put my knives through plenty of work. I also use it every day to cut my lunch fruit or veggies (the most common use, actually) and, even though the blade is wide and thick, I can actually carve a bit with it. All in all, I love this knife and it's toughness, it has yet to let me down. IMO, it's worth the price even though it has close competition.
Note that I combine the Mouse with my Calypso Jr. SE, so I am completely covered for daily work with these two knives. The blade styles are very different plus, the Mouse is PE and the Calypso Jr. is SE.
Kahz
My opinion: This little knife is made to last decades. No blade play so far in mine, and I use it continuously. I do not work for money, since it would be illegal, but rather as a volunteer in several places, and I get to cut a bunch of stuff like paper, cardboard, and plastic, so I put my knives through plenty of work. I also use it every day to cut my lunch fruit or veggies (the most common use, actually) and, even though the blade is wide and thick, I can actually carve a bit with it. All in all, I love this knife and it's toughness, it has yet to let me down. IMO, it's worth the price even though it has close competition.
Note that I combine the Mouse with my Calypso Jr. SE, so I am completely covered for daily work with these two knives. The blade styles are very different plus, the Mouse is PE and the Calypso Jr. is SE.
Kahz
Hey MiniMarc - glad you liked the Nav v Mouse review <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
The Mouse is a brilliant little knife and packs a far bigger bite than you can reasonably expect. It's tough as nails and should last a lifetime.
OK - It's hollow ground blade - it will still perform tasks yes. In fact it will overperform in most day to day tasks. Don't worry about the grind, it's good.
The blade shape - well I actually find the regular shape of the Navigator's blade to be better for most tasks. The Nav is better on an apple, on fine paper cuts (where you would otherwise use a craft knife), an better on DHL boxes too. You can just 'dig in' with the point better with the Nav.
I guess the Mouse would be far better for hunting applications for which it was designed. But I don't skin deer often LOL.
The handle - it's more slippy than G10, but the shape of the handle helps keep it in your hand. I've held mine with oily hands no problem.
Wiggling - LOL - The Mouse does bow out ever so slightly when you exert a LOT of downward pressure. But I read that this is a characteristic of all lockbacks. There is the mere shimmer of a wiggle side-to-side, but you really have to concentrate and force the blade to notice it.
In short, it's about a strong a lock back as you can get I imagine. And if you need something tougher then you need a fixed blade.
Hope that helps
The Mouse is a brilliant little knife and packs a far bigger bite than you can reasonably expect. It's tough as nails and should last a lifetime.
OK - It's hollow ground blade - it will still perform tasks yes. In fact it will overperform in most day to day tasks. Don't worry about the grind, it's good.
The blade shape - well I actually find the regular shape of the Navigator's blade to be better for most tasks. The Nav is better on an apple, on fine paper cuts (where you would otherwise use a craft knife), an better on DHL boxes too. You can just 'dig in' with the point better with the Nav.
I guess the Mouse would be far better for hunting applications for which it was designed. But I don't skin deer often LOL.
The handle - it's more slippy than G10, but the shape of the handle helps keep it in your hand. I've held mine with oily hands no problem.
Wiggling - LOL - The Mouse does bow out ever so slightly when you exert a LOT of downward pressure. But I read that this is a characteristic of all lockbacks. There is the mere shimmer of a wiggle side-to-side, but you really have to concentrate and force the blade to notice it.
In short, it's about a strong a lock back as you can get I imagine. And if you need something tougher then you need a fixed blade.
Hope that helps
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minimarc123
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Basically, yes.
But you might not make the purchase on pure logic right?
For example a second-hand Ford Focus (do you have them in the USA?), will 99% of the things a BMW or Merc will doing, but cost 3 times less. But people covet the more expensive cars anyway right?
Either way you can't lose.
I have both and still want other Spydies LOL
But you might not make the purchase on pure logic right?
For example a second-hand Ford Focus (do you have them in the USA?), will 99% of the things a BMW or Merc will doing, but cost 3 times less. But people covet the more expensive cars anyway right?
Either way you can't lose.
I have both and still want other Spydies LOL
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The Mouse is the clear choice in my mind. I would feel perfectly well equipped if I were limited to just carrying the Mouse for some reason (travel, weird laws, unfriendly work conditions, etc). Mine is rock solid, with no wiggle or slack in any direction. I have no doubt that it would hold up to anything that I could throw at it.
I like the tip-up carry (same as virtually all the big knives that I carry).
I am generally very paranoid about my fingers after having the nerves and tendons in the bottom of my left index finger cut through years ago (by a exploding glass coke bottle, not one of my knives). Normally I like G10 MUCH better than alum. scales for overall gripability, but I have no problem hanging onto the Mouse due the depth, thickness and shape of the handle.
When using the Mouse I have no fear under any sort of rational cutting usage (including last ditch defensive use) that my finger will slip onto the edge. I cannot say the same about the Navigator.
To me the Navigator feels like a small knife in my hand, but the Mouse feels more like a big knife with a small blade if that makes any sense.
For the record, I do not mean this as a slam on the Navigator at all. It is a very nifty little knife and very functional, but if you have to pick between the two and price is not a concern, I say MOUSE! :-)
Edited by - revolvergeek on 1/26/2002 12:35:35 PM
I like the tip-up carry (same as virtually all the big knives that I carry).
I am generally very paranoid about my fingers after having the nerves and tendons in the bottom of my left index finger cut through years ago (by a exploding glass coke bottle, not one of my knives). Normally I like G10 MUCH better than alum. scales for overall gripability, but I have no problem hanging onto the Mouse due the depth, thickness and shape of the handle.
When using the Mouse I have no fear under any sort of rational cutting usage (including last ditch defensive use) that my finger will slip onto the edge. I cannot say the same about the Navigator.
To me the Navigator feels like a small knife in my hand, but the Mouse feels more like a big knife with a small blade if that makes any sense.
For the record, I do not mean this as a slam on the Navigator at all. It is a very nifty little knife and very functional, but if you have to pick between the two and price is not a concern, I say MOUSE! :-)
Edited by - revolvergeek on 1/26/2002 12:35:35 PM
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minimarc123
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Hmmmmm... I don't know why my last post didn't go through... but I also wanted to know if the clip, since it's tip up, gets in the way of your hand, while holding it (on the mouse). I have vowed never to buy a frn delica, because the clip dug into my hand, and I told the salesman to put it back, because I don't want to touch it anymore.
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I agree with Revolvergeek on everything except the grip thing. For me, at least, the G10 Nav grips very well.
"if you have to pick between the two and price is not a concern" ....I would also say Mouse.
Clip-wise, don't worry about it. It's so small that I never carry it clipped anyway. It's always a pocket carry for me.
"if you have to pick between the two and price is not a concern" ....I would also say Mouse.
Clip-wise, don't worry about it. It's so small that I never carry it clipped anyway. It's always a pocket carry for me.