MBC questions..
MBC questions..
First, happy holidays to all who read this. I hope you got the knives my girlfriend didn't buy for me..sniff..anyway, I was reading the one of a kind C Caracci@ BF, who said that lockbacks have no place in knife fights. I don't agree, but the endura comes in a trainer, so neither does spyderco, i guess. My question is, if it's not a part of the MBC line, is the endura used in the class? I love mine, as beat up as it is, and would prefer to train with it. the second question in this rambling post is, is bram from Clearwater? I go down to sarasota acouple of times a year from New Orleans, and was wondering if he had any seminars there. it looks like colorado is not an option for a while..thanks. Oh, is there goung to be a full sized temperence out anytime soon? thanks again
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Dear Dijos:
Thanks for your post. I'll respond to the portions that I'm qualified to comment on.
When it comes to locks, you need to consider both design and quality of execution. It is certainly possible for a particular lock design to have the "potential" to be more robust than another design. However, if it is poorly executed, it may still fall short of a "lesser" lock in actual performance. For lack of a more elegant analogy, you may prefer blondes to brunettes, but I can still find you plenty of ugly blondes.
I have personally tested several name-brand liner-lock knives and had their locks fail with hand pressure alone. I have also seen liner locks that have generous cutouts in the handle to allow the user to easily release the lock. In ballistic cutting, if the knife handle rolls slightly in your hand, it is possible for your index finger to accidentally release the lock. As we all know, a folding knife that lives up to its name at the wrong time is a terrible thing. If I had to choose between these poorly executed liner locks and an average lockback, I'd take the lockback in a heartbeat.
The Endura and Delica are used as a basis for MBC trainers for three reasons: 1) they can be economically produced, making them affordable to all MBC practitioners 2) as far as I know, their locks are rated as "heavy duty" by Spyderco and are therefore already more robust than most lockbacks on the market (additional input from Sal or other Spyderfolk would be welcome here), and 3) although not true MBC knives by definition, there are thousands of people out there who already carry them as MBC knives.
On another topic, I believe Bram still does live in Clearwater, but I don't know if he offers regular classes there. Bram???
Sorry, can't help you with the Temperance question.
Stay safe,
mike j
Thanks for your post. I'll respond to the portions that I'm qualified to comment on.
When it comes to locks, you need to consider both design and quality of execution. It is certainly possible for a particular lock design to have the "potential" to be more robust than another design. However, if it is poorly executed, it may still fall short of a "lesser" lock in actual performance. For lack of a more elegant analogy, you may prefer blondes to brunettes, but I can still find you plenty of ugly blondes.
I have personally tested several name-brand liner-lock knives and had their locks fail with hand pressure alone. I have also seen liner locks that have generous cutouts in the handle to allow the user to easily release the lock. In ballistic cutting, if the knife handle rolls slightly in your hand, it is possible for your index finger to accidentally release the lock. As we all know, a folding knife that lives up to its name at the wrong time is a terrible thing. If I had to choose between these poorly executed liner locks and an average lockback, I'd take the lockback in a heartbeat.
The Endura and Delica are used as a basis for MBC trainers for three reasons: 1) they can be economically produced, making them affordable to all MBC practitioners 2) as far as I know, their locks are rated as "heavy duty" by Spyderco and are therefore already more robust than most lockbacks on the market (additional input from Sal or other Spyderfolk would be welcome here), and 3) although not true MBC knives by definition, there are thousands of people out there who already carry them as MBC knives.
On another topic, I believe Bram still does live in Clearwater, but I don't know if he offers regular classes there. Bram???
Sorry, can't help you with the Temperance question.
Stay safe,
mike j
If you are talking "knife fights" or "dueling" then any folder would be a weak choice. A fighting bowie or something similar would be preferred, just as a shotgun is far better than a glock if you know it is going to get ugly.
For a defensive blade used as a last resort in saving your life, it is a 1000 times better than trying to scratch his eyes out with your nails.
Enduras/Delicas are knives that you can almost always have with you.
I was reading a popular gun magazine a few months back that had an article that covered personal safety/security when travelling. It covered guns, OC spray and impact weapons as well as logistics/tactics. When it came to hanging out by the pool or swimming, the author basically said to avoid the water because you would be unarmed.
What?
My delica tucks nicely IWB in any pair of shorts or swimming trunks. (No not a speedo) LOL. The FRN models are the ones that most will have with them 24/7/365, so why not train with them?
As for Bram living in Clearwater, yes he does (beautiful place). He offers regular classes when he's in town, but I think you need to own a restaurant to enroll. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> Bram?
Edited by - SKS on 1/2/2002 6:50:55 AM
For a defensive blade used as a last resort in saving your life, it is a 1000 times better than trying to scratch his eyes out with your nails.
Enduras/Delicas are knives that you can almost always have with you.
I was reading a popular gun magazine a few months back that had an article that covered personal safety/security when travelling. It covered guns, OC spray and impact weapons as well as logistics/tactics. When it came to hanging out by the pool or swimming, the author basically said to avoid the water because you would be unarmed.
What?
My delica tucks nicely IWB in any pair of shorts or swimming trunks. (No not a speedo) LOL. The FRN models are the ones that most will have with them 24/7/365, so why not train with them?
As for Bram living in Clearwater, yes he does (beautiful place). He offers regular classes when he's in town, but I think you need to own a restaurant to enroll. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> Bram?
Edited by - SKS on 1/2/2002 6:50:55 AM
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Dear SKS:
The BEST fighting knife is the one you actually have with you when the fight starts. Sure, I'd rather have a Bowie, but they're not as convenient to carry as folders and they're illegal to carry concealed in most jurisdictions. The trick is to choose a knife that is well made AND convenient to carry. That way, you're likely to have it with you when you really need it and it is likely to perform well enough to get the job done. Unfortunately, with the exception of Bill Bagwell (who seems to produce concealed Bowies like magicians produce doves), very few of the people who recommend carrying Bowies actually carry them with any regularity.
Stay safe,
mike j
The BEST fighting knife is the one you actually have with you when the fight starts. Sure, I'd rather have a Bowie, but they're not as convenient to carry as folders and they're illegal to carry concealed in most jurisdictions. The trick is to choose a knife that is well made AND convenient to carry. That way, you're likely to have it with you when you really need it and it is likely to perform well enough to get the job done. Unfortunately, with the exception of Bill Bagwell (who seems to produce concealed Bowies like magicians produce doves), very few of the people who recommend carrying Bowies actually carry them with any regularity.
Stay safe,
mike j
M.J.,
Exactly. My bowies are carried less than a dozen days out of the year. A smaller fixed blade (not including neck knives) around 100 + days. But, I carry a folder of some sort 365 days a year.
I don't think I've seen my dad without his endura for the last few years.
A "knifefighter" without a knife is a pretty sorry animal. Delicas/enduras are the knives that most people will start with for EDC. The sales numbers tell the story.
The Delica is the knife that I will have with me more than any other. I love that there is a trainer for it now. (was tired of grinding down live blades) You can buy a Endura live/trainer set for the same price or less than many other folders. That makes it a pretty attractive option for those interested in learning MBC too.
Steve
Exactly. My bowies are carried less than a dozen days out of the year. A smaller fixed blade (not including neck knives) around 100 + days. But, I carry a folder of some sort 365 days a year.
I don't think I've seen my dad without his endura for the last few years.
A "knifefighter" without a knife is a pretty sorry animal. Delicas/enduras are the knives that most people will start with for EDC. The sales numbers tell the story.
The Delica is the knife that I will have with me more than any other. I love that there is a trainer for it now. (was tired of grinding down live blades) You can buy a Endura live/trainer set for the same price or less than many other folders. That makes it a pretty attractive option for those interested in learning MBC too.
Steve
'A "knife fighter" without a knife is a pretty sorry animal.' Well said SKS. My thoughts exactly. I don't consider myself a knife fighter, but I've been carrying knives as all-around handy tools for the last couple of years & hopefully will have the chance to learn to use one to defend myself this summer in Golden, Colorado.