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Hold up guys, check this thread first.
attacted my a civilian
Interesting thread. I am still waiting for TTO to answer this question from a previous querie:
TTO
"Are you licensed to carry a hand gun? If not, I am amazed that the boys in blue didn't
slap you in the pokie on a technicality. Perhaps you were licensed and that was that. Perhaps you are not, and they overlooked this technicality due to the circumstances; which I feel is justice served(IMHO).Tell us more if you can."
TTO
"Are you licensed to carry a hand gun? If not, I am amazed that the boys in blue didn't
slap you in the pokie on a technicality. Perhaps you were licensed and that was that. Perhaps you are not, and they overlooked this technicality due to the circumstances; which I feel is justice served(IMHO).Tell us more if you can."
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CalypsoKid
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I feel that when one is being robbed, one is wise to just give up the goods to avoid being hurt. I never carry the kind of money that would be worth laying my life or even my health on the line. By using checks and credit cards, I don't have to. OTOH, if you are attacked, fight with everything you have until the enemy is vanquished or you can run. Just let 'em take it, you can always get more money or whatever.
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Here's a quick overview of TTO's story elements that point to fabrication.
The attack ocurred late on Dec. 5th, by the 7th, he's clear of all legal issues, out of the hospital and able to keyboard his story.
If his bicep was completely severed, how did he manage to walk out of the hospital within two days? Meanwhile back at the keyboard, he was browsing on BF.com on Dec. 5th and 6th.
It's not likely that the Prosecutor's Office is going to throw out the possibility of charges this quickly. It usually takes at least a week or two to complete the the investigation. Media attention for a shooting of this kind would have stirred up at least a paragraph in the Major regional papers and on-line editions.
Note the total lack of emotional fallout from the aftermath of the attack and shooting. TTO indicates no fear of retaliation or repercussion. The fact that he almost was killed and he nearly killed someone makes no register on his emotional level. Instead, he's more enthalled with in effectivness of the Trufram Civilian -- odd.. wouldn't say for someone who almost lost a limb?
The BG mugger, was carrying a 9mm handgun, but choose to threaten his victim with a knife??
The real threat to a post such as this, is how anti-knife people would react to this myth. Consider.... if word got around that Spyderco had designed a knife that could sever arms. Next thing you know; law makers would jump on this to prohibit "purpose designed knives", because they 'heard' about a case of that happening.
That's why I make effort to call TTO to task, his poor attemp at internet fame and sympathy only severes to discredit those folks that take self-defense as a serious matter. It can also hurt good companies like Spyderco.
TTO has been logged-on over at BF, but has at yet to reply to any of the challenges. Meanwhile, a call to the local newspaper newsrooms in PA and DC, show no such report of a incident the night of 5-6 Dec.
-Seth
The attack ocurred late on Dec. 5th, by the 7th, he's clear of all legal issues, out of the hospital and able to keyboard his story.
If his bicep was completely severed, how did he manage to walk out of the hospital within two days? Meanwhile back at the keyboard, he was browsing on BF.com on Dec. 5th and 6th.
It's not likely that the Prosecutor's Office is going to throw out the possibility of charges this quickly. It usually takes at least a week or two to complete the the investigation. Media attention for a shooting of this kind would have stirred up at least a paragraph in the Major regional papers and on-line editions.
Note the total lack of emotional fallout from the aftermath of the attack and shooting. TTO indicates no fear of retaliation or repercussion. The fact that he almost was killed and he nearly killed someone makes no register on his emotional level. Instead, he's more enthalled with in effectivness of the Trufram Civilian -- odd.. wouldn't say for someone who almost lost a limb?
The BG mugger, was carrying a 9mm handgun, but choose to threaten his victim with a knife??
The real threat to a post such as this, is how anti-knife people would react to this myth. Consider.... if word got around that Spyderco had designed a knife that could sever arms. Next thing you know; law makers would jump on this to prohibit "purpose designed knives", because they 'heard' about a case of that happening.
That's why I make effort to call TTO to task, his poor attemp at internet fame and sympathy only severes to discredit those folks that take self-defense as a serious matter. It can also hurt good companies like Spyderco.
TTO has been logged-on over at BF, but has at yet to reply to any of the challenges. Meanwhile, a call to the local newspaper newsrooms in PA and DC, show no such report of a incident the night of 5-6 Dec.
-Seth
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I'd hate to call someone a liar but I agree that TTO may be a creative author and not a victom at all.
I wondered why would someone with 2oz of Heroin (worth many, many thousands of $$, I suppose) expose himself to getting caught by mugging.
Also, a sharp knife would produce a less painful wound because fewer nerves would be affected.
TTO, what city did this happen in?
~C
I wondered why would someone with 2oz of Heroin (worth many, many thousands of $$, I suppose) expose himself to getting caught by mugging.
Also, a sharp knife would produce a less painful wound because fewer nerves would be affected.
TTO, what city did this happen in?
~C
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Ok let me get a few things clear as i see on Bladeforums and here there is some doubt to my honesty.
1. I Live In PA i list DC as location simply as a matter of not wanting people to have too much info on me i'm paranoid that way i'll leave it at that
2. I do carry a licensed firearm either a HK USP40 OR USP45 mark 23
3. I'M still In the Hospital and no i will not disclose what hospital for fear of retaliation from my attackers friends/family
4. Just because i'm posting doesn't mean i'm home ever hear of a laptop and there is a phoneline in my room that i have permission to use my computer on
5. Let me clarify a few details on my arm. There is very little tendon damage. none that will require a surgeon. My bicep was about 85% severed meaning there is only 15% on th emuscle intact. the cut also went through about 30% of my tricep. i have been through the surgery to reconect the muscle tissue and will be discharged sometime next week
6. If i were going to bullsh*t a story about this attack it would have been some hollywood movie BS where i managed to take out the BG and a few of his friends , reload and take aout a few more. cauterize my arm with my hot gun barrel and walk home like nothing happened. but thats not what hapened.
I posted a brief few paragraphes about what happened. that was all except for my sentance about whether i did the right thing by discharging my weapon of even pulling it in the first place
7. The reason i have not been posting responses in the forums that i made the original post in is because after people started to attack my honesty character and integrity i decided to let it wander and see were it ended up and quite honestly i don't think i've ever been more offended in my life. the ONLY time i have ever been untruthful on the forums is when i state i'm from DC and i due that to protect myself as i stated above i am overparanoid about personal info over the internet.
8. its not in any newspaper or TV because i wouldn't allow it because i wasn't attacked by a single*****hole looking for a quick few $$ i was attacked my a gang member and have a wife and family to worry about them not having to worry about them getting attacked. so it was kept out of the news. its not luke reporters have ESP they only now about things like this if someone calls and tells them about it.
any other questions i will answer through email at MBQUARTRX7@aol.com
PS this will be posted in its entirety in all 3 forums this topic is posted in
Funny i'm scared to death of spiders but own 54 spyderco knives..hmmm
1. I Live In PA i list DC as location simply as a matter of not wanting people to have too much info on me i'm paranoid that way i'll leave it at that
2. I do carry a licensed firearm either a HK USP40 OR USP45 mark 23
3. I'M still In the Hospital and no i will not disclose what hospital for fear of retaliation from my attackers friends/family
4. Just because i'm posting doesn't mean i'm home ever hear of a laptop and there is a phoneline in my room that i have permission to use my computer on
5. Let me clarify a few details on my arm. There is very little tendon damage. none that will require a surgeon. My bicep was about 85% severed meaning there is only 15% on th emuscle intact. the cut also went through about 30% of my tricep. i have been through the surgery to reconect the muscle tissue and will be discharged sometime next week
6. If i were going to bullsh*t a story about this attack it would have been some hollywood movie BS where i managed to take out the BG and a few of his friends , reload and take aout a few more. cauterize my arm with my hot gun barrel and walk home like nothing happened. but thats not what hapened.
I posted a brief few paragraphes about what happened. that was all except for my sentance about whether i did the right thing by discharging my weapon of even pulling it in the first place
7. The reason i have not been posting responses in the forums that i made the original post in is because after people started to attack my honesty character and integrity i decided to let it wander and see were it ended up and quite honestly i don't think i've ever been more offended in my life. the ONLY time i have ever been untruthful on the forums is when i state i'm from DC and i due that to protect myself as i stated above i am overparanoid about personal info over the internet.
8. its not in any newspaper or TV because i wouldn't allow it because i wasn't attacked by a single*****hole looking for a quick few $$ i was attacked my a gang member and have a wife and family to worry about them not having to worry about them getting attacked. so it was kept out of the news. its not luke reporters have ESP they only now about things like this if someone calls and tells them about it.
any other questions i will answer through email at MBQUARTRX7@aol.com
PS this will be posted in its entirety in all 3 forums this topic is posted in
Funny i'm scared to death of spiders but own 54 spyderco knives..hmmm
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Hoosierdaddy
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Seth,
C/K,
I was thinking the same thing!! TTO I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but it does sound questionable. The press and news are like Vultures, anything going on they will know about it! They use police and emergency scanners and something of this magnatude would definately be in the papers or on tube. The first amendement is why they will write this, it's news, and negative news about firearms AND knives. They all jump on the bandwagon for this type of news. My folks are originally from Pa. The two newspapers there are Post Gazette and Pittsburgh Press, anyone want to check archives? TTO send a picture of your arm-stitches to the forum, no face or distinguising marks. That would be a start.
C/K,
I was thinking the same thing!! TTO I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but it does sound questionable. The press and news are like Vultures, anything going on they will know about it! They use police and emergency scanners and something of this magnatude would definately be in the papers or on tube. The first amendement is why they will write this, it's news, and negative news about firearms AND knives. They all jump on the bandwagon for this type of news. My folks are originally from Pa. The two newspapers there are Post Gazette and Pittsburgh Press, anyone want to check archives? TTO send a picture of your arm-stitches to the forum, no face or distinguising marks. That would be a start.
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I also read this on the BF and I seriously doubt the validity of the story. No evidence has been supplied, so I can't allow myself to be fooled. It seems to me that someone merely wanted a little attention. Until I believe that TTO has the power to control the press and also to shoot a firearm with a severed bicep, I will not believe.
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Now the rest of the story....
TTO finally confessed that the whole story was made up. He doesn't seem to feel much regret for his scam; moreover, Painting Sypderco in a negative light caused him no concern.
Here's the confession:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... genumber=3
Edited by - Seth on 12/19/2001 6:31:37 PM
TTO finally confessed that the whole story was made up. He doesn't seem to feel much regret for his scam; moreover, Painting Sypderco in a negative light caused him no concern.
Here's the confession:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... genumber=3
Edited by - Seth on 12/19/2001 6:31:37 PM
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Hoosierdaddy
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Seth,
Thanks for posting that, it's a shame people get off doing things like that!!
To TheTactlessOne,
The truth will always come out.
I think it was Ken Cook that refered to him as "TheTheatricalOne"
Right on guys!!!
For some good reading check out B/F!!!
I really hope you do apoligize to Sal!!
Edited by - Hoosierdaddy on 12/19/2001 7:17:31 PM
Thanks for posting that, it's a shame people get off doing things like that!!
To TheTactlessOne,
The truth will always come out.
I think it was Ken Cook that refered to him as "TheTheatricalOne"
Right on guys!!!
For some good reading check out B/F!!!
I really hope you do apoligize to Sal!!
Edited by - Hoosierdaddy on 12/19/2001 7:17:31 PM
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