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chinese folder geometry

Postby golem » Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:00 am

Just curious, what is the advantage of having a leaf-like blade?

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Postby Clay Kesting » Thu Nov 29, 2001 6:39 pm

Ah, my favorite topic <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>. The wide blade and flat grind give excellent edge geometry, so the knife is a superb slicer particularly on deep cuts. It's also great for spreading peanut butter <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>.

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Postby chinook » Thu Nov 29, 2001 7:56 pm

The wide flatground blade makes slicing chopping and dicing, as in riding the face of the blade against your fingers holding the celery, carrot, shallots, leek or whatever quite easy. The wide blade helps to maintain even slices thru thick material.

Not the best apple corer, butt great for serving up a slice of the pie. ><g>

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Postby Kahz » Thu Nov 29, 2001 8:30 pm

This is one of the first knives that really caught my attention due to it's symmetry and flowing form. I have a question though, as much as I like the green colour, does the green almite fade or chip with use or does it hold pretty well to the aluminum handle?

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Postby chinook » Thu Nov 29, 2001 9:05 pm

kahz...
I don't think the almite chips at all. I have an almite Michael Walker I bought used and it had been dropped on concrete, it has very localized dents into the aluminum butt no indication of spreading or loosening of the coating at all. I have not heard of any fade, although I have heard of some pocket wear on the edges on the green.

There is the "gun metal blue" Chinese which looks pretty much 'clearcoat' to me in the pics I've seen. (which might just be the best option)

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Postby Kahz » Thu Nov 29, 2001 9:13 pm

Chinook,

Thank you for the information. I was just wondering about it because of the bright green colour of this knife. The Mouse is also almite-covered but since it's grey, it's hard to tell if it fades and I had no idea if it chipped or similar.

Better to ask than to live in doubt, is what I say... <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Gracias. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

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Postby mundele » Thu Nov 29, 2001 9:21 pm

Ah, there's some interesting chemistry involved in anodization. "Almite" is a form of anodization. Unlike steel, when Aluminum oxidizes, it forms a very hard coating that does not flake off. Aluminum oxidizes pretty readily in air. Anodizing is a process where a metal is placed in a "cell" (like a battery) as the anode (or negative pole). The liquid in the cell also contains a dye. By passing electric current through the cell, you have forced oxidization to occur. Since there's a dye in the liquid, some of it is trapped inside the oxidized metal. So the green color of the almite is actually part of the handle, not just coated on the outside. I dont know how thick this layer is, but I'm sorry to say it is possible to scratch almite. My Navigator has a tiny speck of exposed aluminum. looks like a tiny silver fleck.

That's my explanation anyway. I hope I got it correct. My "other" major was chemistry, but I dont use it often so I sorta forget a lot...

--Matt

Edited by - mundele on 11/30/2001 8:15:53 AM

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Postby Kahz » Thu Nov 29, 2001 9:31 pm

Mundele,

Nice and clear explanation! You should've been a teacher (unless you already are one). I haven't taken chemistry since high school, that's about 14 years now since my last chemistry course, but this helps a lot and it's very clearly put. I will trust my almite coating more than ever. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Thanks.

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Edited by - Kahz on 11/29/2001 8:32:39 PM

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Postby Clay Kesting » Thu Nov 29, 2001 11:58 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:<hr height=1 noshade>This is one of the first knives that really caught my attention due to it's
symmetry and flowing form. <hr height=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2>
Kahz,

You are so, so right. I fell in love the first time I saw the custom version and there is no other knife, before or since, which has had such a powerful effect one. I've have had no problems with the Almite although I'm pretty careful with my knives. I believe the gunmetal blue Chinese Folder is a similar finish to the Navigator and is more grey than blue although certainly not clear (can't wait to get one).

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Postby hy » Fri Nov 30, 2001 1:42 am

I don't know why but the temperance jr reminds me of the chinese folder. The strange thing is that i love the look of the lil'temperance and the temperance fb (as seen in the 2002 catalogue)....but totally dislike the chinese folder.....Like my girlfriend always says, i'm weird.......

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Postby mundele » Fri Nov 30, 2001 9:15 am

Thanks Kahz. I'm not a teacher, I'm a software developer. My Lum Chinese had a little scratched place where a clip screw scratched off the coating. I used a green sharpie to cover it and although it doesnt match exactly it looks pretty close...

--Matt

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Postby Clay Kesting » Fri Nov 30, 2001 1:24 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:<hr height=1 noshade>.....Like my girlfriend always says, i'm weird....... <hr height=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2>
hy,

You're girlfriend is clearly a woman of infinite wisdom and piercing insight <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>.

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Postby hy » Fri Nov 30, 2001 5:51 pm

Clay, it really doesn't take infinite wisdom and piercing insight to see that i'm weird, just a good dose of common sense...<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>.....every time i see a thread about the chinese folder, i can't resist jumping in....just like a lemming<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>....Am i really the only person in the whole forum who doesn't like the chinese folder?.....thus incurring the wrath of the wise old men and women of the forum...<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

"A lawyer with his briefcase can steal more than a hundred men with guns" - Don Vito Corleone

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Postby Clay Kesting » Fri Nov 30, 2001 7:11 pm

Hey who you calling old. Well OK I am old I just don't like to be reminded of it. OTOH wise you can call me any time.

I'll let you play with the Chinese Folder next time we meet. I'm sure you'll eventually see reason <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle><img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle><img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>.

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Postby hy » Fri Nov 30, 2001 8:04 pm

Clay,there's a reason the saying 'There's no fool like an old fool' is so popular...<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

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Postby Kahz » Fri Nov 30, 2001 8:18 pm

Who's talking about female wrath in here????

*looking around suspiciously*

I still do not own the Chinese folder but... it is also getting its way into my subconscious, like many other knives... <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

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Postby hy » Fri Nov 30, 2001 9:35 pm

'Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned'....<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

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Postby Kahz » Fri Nov 30, 2001 9:55 pm

Hy, here's to you: <img src="tongue.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> LOL!

Actually, I am a fairly calm person nowadays, and my wrath is seldom used. When I was in grade school, my peers dubbed me "Iron Fist" (remember that Motorhead song? I adopted it.), and I held on to my title all the way to the end of high school. That was about 14 years ago, the last time I punched anyone outside a dojo.

Better to walk away than to get unwanted scars, unless it's a sure bet. Besides, I am a lady and I have to act ladylike, LOL! <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Kahz

p.s. - I never fought with girls, btw, they are dangerous creatures that scratch and pull hair. I only punched boys, plus, I was taller than most at that time. I am not anymore, just average, but Xena is my hero. Hee, hee... <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

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Postby Clay Kesting » Fri Nov 30, 2001 10:51 pm

You're quite right hy, and the worst part is that every day I get older, I also become more foolish. Now what's your excuse?<img src="tongue.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

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