I want to get a police, but I am not sure which one to get. I had a SS but got impatient with it because it was still stiff and returned it. Would a G-10 have a smoother action right off? And are they the same size in all dimentions- handle width?
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SS or G-10 police?
Good Morning mschwoeb,
I too have a SS Police and find that the blade is also stiff. I've tried different lubes but nothing seems to help. If I let it go for too long, I get a mild squeaking sound from the action while opening slowly.
I am also in the market for a G-10 Police. As far as I know, the dimensions are the same as the SS but I'm not 100% sure. And, obviously, there's the weight difference. Don't know if you've considered a Military instead, but I'm leaning more towards a SpyderEdged Military instead of a Police. Seems like it's more of a "heavy-duty" knife.
"Hope for the best. Be prepared for the worst. You'll never be disappointed."
I too have a SS Police and find that the blade is also stiff. I've tried different lubes but nothing seems to help. If I let it go for too long, I get a mild squeaking sound from the action while opening slowly.
I am also in the market for a G-10 Police. As far as I know, the dimensions are the same as the SS but I'm not 100% sure. And, obviously, there's the weight difference. Don't know if you've considered a Military instead, but I'm leaning more towards a SpyderEdged Military instead of a Police. Seems like it's more of a "heavy-duty" knife.
"Hope for the best. Be prepared for the worst. You'll never be disappointed."
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For me, the G-10 is a slam dunk, but I'm a big fan of the G-10 material as it is lighter and has a better grip.
However, knives are intensely personal. Some people prefer a knife with heft. Also SS is cool looking.
I should point out that the G-10 Police is being discontinued.
I also tend to agree with the writer who recommended the Military. The Millie is a great handling, but amazingly light tool. Like the Police, the Military has great lines. The Millie has a G-10 handle material, but is 1/8th inch shorter than the Police. The shorter blade length may avoid legal issues in some jurisdictions.
Under any circumstance, I strongly recommend that you find a good knife shop and handle the knife. You're spending a lot of money (and worth every penny I might add), but you should invest some time in order to get the right knife.
One way or the other, you pay for your tools!
However, knives are intensely personal. Some people prefer a knife with heft. Also SS is cool looking.
I should point out that the G-10 Police is being discontinued.
I also tend to agree with the writer who recommended the Military. The Millie is a great handling, but amazingly light tool. Like the Police, the Military has great lines. The Millie has a G-10 handle material, but is 1/8th inch shorter than the Police. The shorter blade length may avoid legal issues in some jurisdictions.
Under any circumstance, I strongly recommend that you find a good knife shop and handle the knife. You're spending a lot of money (and worth every penny I might add), but you should invest some time in order to get the right knife.
One way or the other, you pay for your tools!
The s/s model is slimmer, heavier, slippery-er, more beautiful (to me) and has a hollow ground blade as opposed to the flat ground blade of the G-10 version. They really are quite different, so if possible you should handle both.
Considering that the G-10 version has just hit the "discontinued" list, and you have already tried an s/s model maybe you should go with the G-10 model at this time. If you like, you could always get an s/s model later on if you decide you want to, as they are still a current production item. Here are pictures of both, in case you don't have them.
Good luck with your decision, Jeff/1911.
Edited by - Jeff/1911 on 11/21/2001 11:34:59 AM
Considering that the G-10 version has just hit the "discontinued" list, and you have already tried an s/s model maybe you should go with the G-10 model at this time. If you like, you could always get an s/s model later on if you decide you want to, as they are still a current production item. Here are pictures of both, in case you don't have them.
Good luck with your decision, Jeff/1911.
Edited by - Jeff/1911 on 11/21/2001 11:34:59 AM
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Just a couple of questions that this thread brought to mind.... I dont mean to sway the topic.
Lsaulog mentioned that the Military seems to be more a heavy duty knife... I was wondering does it have a thicker blade? What is it that makes it seem more heavy duty than the Police.
Second, Do the knives with G-10 handles have a steel/alum./ti liner or is the complete handel made souly of the G-10 material?? I was at a gun show last weekend and finally decided to purchase my first Spydie... I looked aroudn and compaired prices and 'feel' and i loved the police, but the Delica just seemed more practical for an EDC knife...BUT there was a police model that seemed to have G-10 or maby even Micarta scales on a steel liners... I LOVED it... but the price was'nt too favorable for my current budget (130$). Sorry if this is elementary questions.. but i havent had a chance to have hands on expierence with too many of the spidies.. and i KNOW im going to buy more.. just trying to decide where to go from here..
Lsaulog mentioned that the Military seems to be more a heavy duty knife... I was wondering does it have a thicker blade? What is it that makes it seem more heavy duty than the Police.
Second, Do the knives with G-10 handles have a steel/alum./ti liner or is the complete handel made souly of the G-10 material?? I was at a gun show last weekend and finally decided to purchase my first Spydie... I looked aroudn and compaired prices and 'feel' and i loved the police, but the Delica just seemed more practical for an EDC knife...BUT there was a police model that seemed to have G-10 or maby even Micarta scales on a steel liners... I LOVED it... but the price was'nt too favorable for my current budget (130$). Sorry if this is elementary questions.. but i havent had a chance to have hands on expierence with too many of the spidies.. and i KNOW im going to buy more.. just trying to decide where to go from here..
I like the hollow ground Police blade better than the flat ground--the former seems sturdier all the way to the point. Except for a temporary manufacturing error where some hollow ground serrated blades were installed on the G-10 version (according to Sal)the hollow ground is only available with the stainless steel handle. As I have mentioned in previous posts, I feel the ss handled Police is smoother to insert and extract from your pocket or waistband--with less wear on the material--than the G-10 version. In response to another question asked, my experience is that the ss Police does become smoother opening with use and occassional lubrication.
The Military IMO appears to be "heavy-duty" because of its wider blade and pronounced belly. Its liner lock is nested into the G-10 (a really amazing manufacturing feat). It is very lightweight for its size. Some people don't care for the blade-to-handle ratio; I prefer the ATS 34 blade to the 440V. Obviously, it's these subjective preferences that make knife purchasing and collecting fun.
The Military IMO appears to be "heavy-duty" because of its wider blade and pronounced belly. Its liner lock is nested into the G-10 (a really amazing manufacturing feat). It is very lightweight for its size. Some people don't care for the blade-to-handle ratio; I prefer the ATS 34 blade to the 440V. Obviously, it's these subjective preferences that make knife purchasing and collecting fun.
Toothed,
Following my recent experiences with ATS-34 steel in the Wegner family, I would really like to get an early Military using this steel...it's absolutely fabulous in the Wegner.
Anybody want to trade an earlier version ATS-34 bladed, plain edge Military for my one-year old, diamond engraved, plain edge CPM-440V model? Here is where a picture of mine may be viewed:
http://ca.msnusers.com/theSpydercoianco ... PhotoID=12
Jeff/1911.
Edited by - Jeff/1911 on 11/21/2001 2:17:58 PM
Following my recent experiences with ATS-34 steel in the Wegner family, I would really like to get an early Military using this steel...it's absolutely fabulous in the Wegner.
Anybody want to trade an earlier version ATS-34 bladed, plain edge Military for my one-year old, diamond engraved, plain edge CPM-440V model? Here is where a picture of mine may be viewed:
http://ca.msnusers.com/theSpydercoianco ... PhotoID=12
Jeff/1911.
Edited by - Jeff/1911 on 11/21/2001 2:17:58 PM
Okay can't write an essay on this one (got a 10 page paper due tomorrow on the IMF, oh joy). I have held the SS police and the Military. I seem to remember the Military being somewhat slimmer, but I could be wrong, I am just saying that by feel. It is much lighter. The wear issue is true, already my pants are getting a tad worn were the knife touches the pants, but I am willing to take that for the lighter weight. I love the CPM 440V steal. The blade design I also like, belly and just the strength of it. Also, liner lock and a lager spyder hole. The knife carries well in my pocket, but then this is all personal opinion, and I guess I am not much help with the two police models. Sorry if this causes more trouble.
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The G-10 version is discontinued because it wasn't selling well enough. I have handled both versions and the fact I own two SS-handled Police models and no G-10 version speaks for itself. I like and own many G-10 handled knives, and I do like flat-ground blades, but for myself, I like the SS Police's blade grind better for this knife. The SS Police is thinner but heavier than the Military. But IMO this relative heaviness is a non-issue because to me it still feels fairly light yet hefty.
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