Mr Janich,
Are some knives better suited to inertial opens? I have a Spyderco Native and can't seem to get in to open well with the inertial open.
From watching your tape, I haven't been able to note if you open it partially then flick the wrist, or if my trouble is my knife doesn't have the most conducive make up for the inertial open.
I've notice you've recommended the Lum Tanta and Lum chinese folder.
I want to practice my opens but make sure I'm doing so with a tool that would be suited to this technique.
thanks,
I've really enjoy the directness and great
structure of your Tactical folder video,
Garoovin
Are some knives better suited to inertial opens?
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Sword and Shield
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Hi, Garoovin! Welcome to Spyderland! <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
Are you referring to the infamous "Spydie-drop"? If so, I might be able to help. Most of the difficulty in learning is in gaining the correct grip. What I've found effective is to grasp the hole using index and thumb, with the handle oriented away from you.
Then flick your wrist downward, almost like you are cracking a whip. It takes a few tries, but it becomes easy.
Does your Native have an FRN handle? That can sometimes make the drop difficult, as the handle has little weight to pull the knife open with. Good luck!
Keepin' it real...real sharp, that is.
Are you referring to the infamous "Spydie-drop"? If so, I might be able to help. Most of the difficulty in learning is in gaining the correct grip. What I've found effective is to grasp the hole using index and thumb, with the handle oriented away from you.
Then flick your wrist downward, almost like you are cracking a whip. It takes a few tries, but it becomes easy.
Does your Native have an FRN handle? That can sometimes make the drop difficult, as the handle has little weight to pull the knife open with. Good luck!
Keepin' it real...real sharp, that is.
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Dear Garoovin:
Since you have my video, you've already got a great visual aid to teach you the technique. The key is to ensure that the knife always turns around the pivot pin rather than whipping your arm or snapping your wrist. Please review the exercise I show where you pinch the pivot pin with the index finger and thumb of the left hand as you learn the proper muscle memory for the opening with the right. If you do this right, you can open a Native.
With all that said, liner locks are much easier to open than back locks. The less pressure there is keeping the blade closed, the easier it is to open. Also, a heavier blade helps as well.
Thanks for your kind words about my video. If you enjoyed it, you might want to look into the sequel - a two-tape set titled "Advanced Fighting Folders" available from Paladin Press.
Stay safe,
mike j
Since you have my video, you've already got a great visual aid to teach you the technique. The key is to ensure that the knife always turns around the pivot pin rather than whipping your arm or snapping your wrist. Please review the exercise I show where you pinch the pivot pin with the index finger and thumb of the left hand as you learn the proper muscle memory for the opening with the right. If you do this right, you can open a Native.
With all that said, liner locks are much easier to open than back locks. The less pressure there is keeping the blade closed, the easier it is to open. Also, a heavier blade helps as well.
Thanks for your kind words about my video. If you enjoyed it, you might want to look into the sequel - a two-tape set titled "Advanced Fighting Folders" available from Paladin Press.
Stay safe,
mike j
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Sword and Shield and Mr Janich,
I will have to check back on the video about the Spydie drop and I appreciate your tip.
I realize now my knife does have the black plastic handle and lacks some weight. What started out as a trip to a knife store to get a folder to carry because a belt carrying Gerber bully had started a confrontation with me has become a real enduring interest in knives and MBC for me.
I'm going to check some liner lock models and see how I feel holding a heavier knife.
I find the feel is important. And I do feel as you say in the video that the tool has to be an extension of one's hand.
I saw the second plane hit the WTC from my office window because I work downtown and there has been a strange mood shift in the city, and it's become important to have something to look forward to. And I definetely look forward to the knowledge and enjoyment I'll get frompurchasing "Advanced Fighing Folders".
thank you for your advice,
Garoovin
I will have to check back on the video about the Spydie drop and I appreciate your tip.
I realize now my knife does have the black plastic handle and lacks some weight. What started out as a trip to a knife store to get a folder to carry because a belt carrying Gerber bully had started a confrontation with me has become a real enduring interest in knives and MBC for me.
I'm going to check some liner lock models and see how I feel holding a heavier knife.
I find the feel is important. And I do feel as you say in the video that the tool has to be an extension of one's hand.
I saw the second plane hit the WTC from my office window because I work downtown and there has been a strange mood shift in the city, and it's become important to have something to look forward to. And I definetely look forward to the knowledge and enjoyment I'll get frompurchasing "Advanced Fighing Folders".
thank you for your advice,
Garoovin
Sword and Shield and Mr Janich,
I will have to check back on the video about the Spydie drop and I appreciate your tip.
I realize now my knife does have the black plastic handle and lacks some weight. What started out as a trip to a knife store to get a folder to carry because a belt carrying Gerber bully had started a confrontation with me has become a real enduring interest in knives and MBC for me.
I'm going to check some liner lock models and see how I feel holding a heavier knife.
I find the feel is important. And I do feel as you say in the video that the tool has to be an extension of one's hand.
I saw the second plane hit the WTC from my office window because I work downtown and there has been a strange mood shift in the city, and it's become important to have something to look forward to. And I definetely look forward to the knowledge and enjoyment I'll get frompurchasing "Advanced Fighing Folders".
thank you for your advice,
Garoovin
I will have to check back on the video about the Spydie drop and I appreciate your tip.
I realize now my knife does have the black plastic handle and lacks some weight. What started out as a trip to a knife store to get a folder to carry because a belt carrying Gerber bully had started a confrontation with me has become a real enduring interest in knives and MBC for me.
I'm going to check some liner lock models and see how I feel holding a heavier knife.
I find the feel is important. And I do feel as you say in the video that the tool has to be an extension of one's hand.
I saw the second plane hit the WTC from my office window because I work downtown and there has been a strange mood shift in the city, and it's become important to have something to look forward to. And I definetely look forward to the knowledge and enjoyment I'll get frompurchasing "Advanced Fighing Folders".
thank you for your advice,
Garoovin
garoovin, the knife does not have to be heavy to execute the "Spydie-drop." The Military is relatively light for its size and yet can be used for this maneuver. The large opening hole is also a bonus. Notwithstanding the above, my favorite knife for this maneuver is the stainless steel handled Police.
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Dear Garoovin and Sword and Shield:
I neglected to note that the reason that it takes extraordinary skill to perform an inertial opening with a Spyderco knife is that they are specifically made not to be opened in that way. Spyderco is very diligent about producing knives with a "bias toward remaining closed," meaning that the spring pressure for all of their knives is engineered to keep the knife securely closed until deliberately and manually opened with a thumb opening.
Spyderco's official policy is that they do not recommend or endorse inertial openings of any kind.
Stay safe,
mike j
I neglected to note that the reason that it takes extraordinary skill to perform an inertial opening with a Spyderco knife is that they are specifically made not to be opened in that way. Spyderco is very diligent about producing knives with a "bias toward remaining closed," meaning that the spring pressure for all of their knives is engineered to keep the knife securely closed until deliberately and manually opened with a thumb opening.
Spyderco's official policy is that they do not recommend or endorse inertial openings of any kind.
Stay safe,
mike j
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gnashings
My love affair with Spderco started with a small pocket knife I recieved as a gift - I loved it. I soon purchased a Police model and it became my baby! Unfortunately it has been stolen. I have a mass of questions about Spyderco products and MBD - the latter being new and very exciting to me. Where can I see the Military - is it still made? And my last Police was steel, I thught I might get the black one this time ( out of respect for my previous knife ) but I can't seem to get definite answers on availability! Happy to find this sight and anxiously awaiting a reply!
Pete
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Hi gnashings,
Welcome to the Forum.
The Military is a current production model. Click on the Products link above, then go to Online Catalogue. You'll find pictures of it there.
Regarding the Police, it's one of my favorite knives and is one of my EDCs (every day carry's). The stainless steel Police is also a current production model. If you were looking for one with black handles, it also comes with G-10 scales. Pictures of both are also available through the Online Catalogue.
"Hope for the best. Be prepared for the worst. You'll never be disappointed."
Welcome to the Forum.
The Military is a current production model. Click on the Products link above, then go to Online Catalogue. You'll find pictures of it there.
Regarding the Police, it's one of my favorite knives and is one of my EDCs (every day carry's). The stainless steel Police is also a current production model. If you were looking for one with black handles, it also comes with G-10 scales. Pictures of both are also available through the Online Catalogue.
"Hope for the best. Be prepared for the worst. You'll never be disappointed."
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gnashings
WOW! You guys are great!!! The speedy replies blow me away, and the knowledge that seeps from these pages is putting me in sensory overload!!! I love the fact that there is a strong group of people who love knives and want to promote the culture of the blade - I hope that I speak for everyone when I say that many people don't get it, and I like the idea of setting them straight by exposing our hobby in the most positive light. Last but not least, I'm in Canada (Toronto area) where do I go to find the videos I've read about? Anyone have fave's as far as places in T.O. to buy Spydercos? Keep up the great work!
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Dear Gnashings:
Welcome to the forum and thanks for the kind words. We are committed to doing this forum right and making it a valuable resource for everyone. I'm glad you feel we're succeeding.
The video referenced in this thread is my "Fighting Folders" video. It's available through Paladin Press at www.paladin-press.com. Sorry, but I don't know of any Spyderco dealers in Toronto, but if you poke around on the main Spyderco page, you might be able to find some answers with their dealer locator service.
To knifeknut, compared to the steel-handled Police, the G-10 is much harder to inertially open. Part of it is because of the different handle-to-blade weight ratio. I also feel that the lock spring on the G-10 version is a bit stiffer. However, with practice, it can be done. You'll just burn a few more calories in the process.
Again, I'm speaking for myself here. When it comes to inertial openings, Spyderco's official company policy is that they do not recommend or endorse them and purposely make their knives with a bias toward remaining closed until deliberately and manually opened.
Stay safe,
Mike
mike j
Welcome to the forum and thanks for the kind words. We are committed to doing this forum right and making it a valuable resource for everyone. I'm glad you feel we're succeeding.
The video referenced in this thread is my "Fighting Folders" video. It's available through Paladin Press at www.paladin-press.com. Sorry, but I don't know of any Spyderco dealers in Toronto, but if you poke around on the main Spyderco page, you might be able to find some answers with their dealer locator service.
To knifeknut, compared to the steel-handled Police, the G-10 is much harder to inertially open. Part of it is because of the different handle-to-blade weight ratio. I also feel that the lock spring on the G-10 version is a bit stiffer. However, with practice, it can be done. You'll just burn a few more calories in the process.
Again, I'm speaking for myself here. When it comes to inertial openings, Spyderco's official company policy is that they do not recommend or endorse them and purposely make their knives with a bias toward remaining closed until deliberately and manually opened.
Stay safe,
Mike
mike j