Am I the only person on the forum who wants to see a better Spyderco fixed blade hunting / outdoor knife? Looked at and handled the Moran but it just doesn’t do anything for me. Currently using the Cold Steel Master Hunter in Carbon 5. It is a nice knife but I feel like a traitor, being the loyal Spyderco fan I am. My conscience would feel better if Spydeco would make a better outdoor blade. Seems like the soon to be released fix blades are oriented to the martial arts crowd.
The perfect outdoor fixed blade:
VG 10 or CPM440V
Wegner blade style
G-10
Price: Build it and we will come, as long as its cheaper that Tim’s custom blades.
Anyone else want one?
Build a better fixed blade (Please)
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Glockdriver
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I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one. Seems a lot of people are happy with the Moran, and the rest of us carry something else.
Spyderco makes kick*****folders. Period. They make some of my favorite production blades, and probably the highest quality product out there. I'm not sure they need to diversify into fixed blades. There are many other companies that make fixed blades to do anything and everything you want them to, but they lack folders. They basically specialize in one or the other... there are few that do a great deal of both, and those that do generally don't make as high quality/hard use blades as what we are accustomed to with Spyderco and several other brands.
One last thing... what makes 440V a good steel for an outdoor blade? I rarely ever hear this as it tends to be a bit brittle for chopping and that sort of thing.
Spyderco makes kick*****folders. Period. They make some of my favorite production blades, and probably the highest quality product out there. I'm not sure they need to diversify into fixed blades. There are many other companies that make fixed blades to do anything and everything you want them to, but they lack folders. They basically specialize in one or the other... there are few that do a great deal of both, and those that do generally don't make as high quality/hard use blades as what we are accustomed to with Spyderco and several other brands.
One last thing... what makes 440V a good steel for an outdoor blade? I rarely ever hear this as it tends to be a bit brittle for chopping and that sort of thing.
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sam the man..
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Well everyone is entitled to their opinion... I think the CS Master Hunter is a fine knife as well. You can actuall pack this one for hard use.. But when it comes to artistry and elegance, it'll be hard for the CS Master Hunter to come close at all if you compare it with both the upswept and drop point moran. Now I give due credit to Spyderco for producing the Moran at an affordable price. Its a well-treated custom collaboration piece if you put it in perspective... Look at the steel, blade geometry, ergonomics and functionality, you won't find this on the master hunter IMHO.. <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
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Hi GlockDriver,
Check out the two fixed blades coming in the next few weeks. Neither model was designed for MBC but more toward outdoor/general usage. Haven't held the Lum Tanto all that much, but the Perrin has this 'sweet spot' of balance between the blade and handle unlike any other fixed blade I've used. Light handle, VG-10, Kydex sheath... maybe it will do for you what the Moran doesn't.
The Lum is just plain beautiful. Great grinds, glove-like in the hand, leather sheath. If I get one I'll spend time admiring its appearance as much as using it.
The first few Perrin models are in and will be shipping soon. Lums I believe will be a few weeks at least. New models are always kinda hard to find right off the bat but we're trying out best to get them out there.
Joyce
Check out the two fixed blades coming in the next few weeks. Neither model was designed for MBC but more toward outdoor/general usage. Haven't held the Lum Tanto all that much, but the Perrin has this 'sweet spot' of balance between the blade and handle unlike any other fixed blade I've used. Light handle, VG-10, Kydex sheath... maybe it will do for you what the Moran doesn't.
The Lum is just plain beautiful. Great grinds, glove-like in the hand, leather sheath. If I get one I'll spend time admiring its appearance as much as using it.
The first few Perrin models are in and will be shipping soon. Lums I believe will be a few weeks at least. New models are always kinda hard to find right off the bat but we're trying out best to get them out there.
Joyce
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ftkinney
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i agree with joyce, i've only seen the photos but both knive look beutiful and the perrin bowie looks like a really good outdoor knife.
FTK
but i do agree making a fix blade production verson of the wegner would be fantastic that is my favorite utilty folder i would buy a fixed blade a $150 msrp, like the lum in a heartbeat. it would be great with replaceable kytel, i think that is the sqishy type handle material, like the inserts on the progrip.
Edited by - ftkinney on 10/1/2001 9:57:05 AM
FTK
but i do agree making a fix blade production verson of the wegner would be fantastic that is my favorite utilty folder i would buy a fixed blade a $150 msrp, like the lum in a heartbeat. it would be great with replaceable kytel, i think that is the sqishy type handle material, like the inserts on the progrip.
Edited by - ftkinney on 10/1/2001 9:57:05 AM
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Glockdriver
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Boy! I sure did not intend to stir up a storm over the Moran. Maybe I need to take another look. I’m the first to say that Spyderco makes the finest production knives in the world. I own several, including the Wegner and Military.
Samo:
I agree that the Moran is a better executed product that the CS Master Hunter. I just think a Wegner would be SO much better. Just one man’s opinion.
tipue:
40V might not make a “chopper” but this is why God made Gransfors Bruk axes. Seriously, I think the edge holding ability of 440V and the ability to cut makes it suitable for an outdoor knife.
Joyce:
Thanks for the tip on the Perrin. It looks somewhat large, what are the specs?
Thanks for the input. However, I was sure hoping more of you would want a fixed blade Wegner.
Samo:
I agree that the Moran is a better executed product that the CS Master Hunter. I just think a Wegner would be SO much better. Just one man’s opinion.
tipue:
40V might not make a “chopper” but this is why God made Gransfors Bruk axes. Seriously, I think the edge holding ability of 440V and the ability to cut makes it suitable for an outdoor knife.
Joyce:
Thanks for the tip on the Perrin. It looks somewhat large, what are the specs?
Thanks for the input. However, I was sure hoping more of you would want a fixed blade Wegner.
I can see how the edge holding of 440V would make it look nice for a camp knife, but that means that you have to have a second tool along to do chopping. I also am a fan of Gransfors hatchets, but don't always like to carry mine along with me when I go into the woods. I'm more fond of a steel like BG42 that will take a bit more punishment but still has decent edgeholding. I, sadly, cannot say I have found a perfect fixed blade yet and am therefore still looking. I would be fond of a fixed blade Wegner though<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> The customs just look a bit too pricey for me to play with without being able to hold and look at one first. Maybe we can hope for 3V in the production version<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> A guy can dream at least, can't he?
Edited by - tique on 10/2/2001 12:57:57 AM
Edited by - tique on 10/2/2001 12:57:57 AM
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sam the man..
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Well, I think with Spyderco's constant desire to improve and evolve, we may some day : see the fixed blade Wegner. I have plenty of respect for Mr Wegner's design which is practical in many ways. I'm looking forward to check out the Perrin Bowie and Bob Lum's magnificent "Lumto"
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The Master Hunter in Carbon V is a **** of a knife. Great blade shape, awesome steel, very serviceable handle, and solid execution. Frankly, I see knives at 4 times the price that don't stand up to it!
The drop point Moran is a superb knife as well. Great stainless steel (with tradeoffs versus Carbon V), great blade shape, and even better execution by Spyderco than the Master Hunter. The downside is the handle, either you like it or you don't. By and large the Moran more closely represents my thinking in small outdoor knives, with its thin blade that focuses more on cutting performance than brute force. I like the handle but don't love it, so for me it still loses out to the Deerhunter and especially the TTKK. Still, I think it's an outstanding job by Spyderco and wouldn't fault anyone for picking up a Moran -- or a Master Hunter, for that matter -- over my picks.
The drop point Moran is a superb knife as well. Great stainless steel (with tradeoffs versus Carbon V), great blade shape, and even better execution by Spyderco than the Master Hunter. The downside is the handle, either you like it or you don't. By and large the Moran more closely represents my thinking in small outdoor knives, with its thin blade that focuses more on cutting performance than brute force. I like the handle but don't love it, so for me it still loses out to the Deerhunter and especially the TTKK. Still, I think it's an outstanding job by Spyderco and wouldn't fault anyone for picking up a Moran -- or a Master Hunter, for that matter -- over my picks.