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All these stainless steel handles

Postby Jose Diaz » Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:04 pm

I am a huge fan, and user of :spyder: knives. I love the functionality and ergonomics, especially of the medium and small blades. I'm new here, and hopefully not bringing up an old issue.

But I am wondering about the large amount of stainless steel handles. One of the beauty of the FRN handles is their lightness and durability. Stainless handles seem to make a light agile knife a bit more hefty. More really than I like. Is this a trend in the market? Are FRN hanles going to be a thing of the past? I hope not. They are tough and make an otherwise heavy knife, unexpectedly quick and agile. Steel belongs at the blade.

I have been looking at getting the new Navigator, but am hesitant due to the Steel handle. I, like many like the leaf blade and full flat grind, and the ergonomics really apeal.

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Postby Slvgx » Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:14 pm

SS Handles are nothing new. The trend would be FRN between the two. SS is offered because they are generally easy to make at the beginning. FRN costs a lot to set up initially. Many people like SS because it can be engraved and adds heft. The SS version tends to be stronger than the FRN version of the same model.

If you want the Nav II you could wait around because Sal has talked in the past about doing a different version with bolsters. It would not be FRN and super light weight, but it would be different than the full SS model.
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looking foreward

Postby Jose Diaz » Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:29 pm

Thanks Slvgx. I guess I did read somewhere that stainless handles were easier/cheeper to set up for.

I do like the other handle materials that :spyder: uses. I will be patient :cool: .

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Metal handles scratch too easy....

Postby sierra » Fri Apr 07, 2006 4:03 pm

I have a Scorpius and a Cricket with the metal grips, and I have to agree that I do like the hefty feel at times.
BUT, I take great care of each of my knives and both have become scratched; from mistakingly putting keys in the same pocket, from my rings, or anything else they rub against.

I just called in and asked a women if there were plans to make a G-10 Scorpius, but alas she said no.
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But it is scratched up on the sides! :eek: Crickie looks beat up too :eek:

Also, my hands seem to sweat more with the metal slabs. I identified 3-5 models I wanted to buy if they come out in G-10; the plastic too.

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Postby rnhood » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:19 pm

The heft of stainless probably works to its disadvantage but, for some reason I often prefer the metal handle, with Ti probably being the ideal metal handle due to its lighter weight. The SS Spydies often seem a tad bit more refined to operate and handle, and even to admire. And, with metal I have the perception that I am getting more knife, a slightly higher quality knife. All just my subjective opinion of course - your mileage will vary.

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Postby TheKnifeCollector » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:24 pm

rnhood wrote:The heft of stainless probably works to its disadvantage but, for some reason I often prefer the metal handle, with Ti probably being the ideal metal handle due to its lighter weight. The SS Spydies often seem a tad bit more refined to operate and handle, and even to admire. And, with metal I have the perception that I am getting more knife, a slightly higher quality knife. All just my subjective opinion of course - your mileage will vary.
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Postby Carlos » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:47 pm

A lot of new models, particularly in-house designs get market tested with stainless steel. You could almost call it tradition, as the earliest Spyders were steel handled.
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Postby flipe8 » Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:48 am

I really like SS handles and will buy them pretty much every time over FRN with one or two exceptions(the Salt for kayaking). I like the scratches as they show character, but do nothing to compromise the function nor strength of the knife. The largest knife I carry would be a Delica or Scorpius, so weight isn't that much of an issue, either. To each their own, though.

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Scratching?

Postby Hannibal Lecter » Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:48 am

Dear Friends,

I don't see scratching as a big issue on stainless-handled knives. Use a Scotch-Brite pad and polish the scratches out - it only takes a few minutes. I have done this to my Harpy several times with excellent results.

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Postby Apeman » Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:53 am

Oh, good idea hannibal! Thanks for the tip, my Scorpius is in need of a good shine!

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Postby Rainy County » Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:18 am

I prefer SS myself :) . I like the added heft and with the way Spyderco designes their knives they aren't likely to slide out of your hand :rolleyes: .



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Postby scolby » Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:58 am

The biggest downside for me with the stainless handles is that for outdoor work, they get pretty cold in the winter. I definitely prefer g-10 or frn for that reason.
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SS Handles

Postby Jose Diaz » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:16 pm

Thanks so much, everyone for the replies to this thread. The suggestion that Hanabal made for the removal of scratches will be kept in mind and tried. I cannot claim to be an expert or collecter of :spyder: . I am though learning more by being here and look foreward to expanding my education.

respectfully, Jose.

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Postby uhiforgot » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:28 pm

Nothing against light knives, but am I the only one that likes a HEAVY knife? There is just something about a Mini Manix (for instance) that just makes it feel GOOD in the hand, and the weight is part of it. It feels balanced, and just really natural to hold. After carrying FRN Spydies for my whole life, the M83 REALLY caught my attention and was a delight to use.

Now if it were solid stainless, this might be a different story as SS is kinda slippery to me when working with sweaty hands, but it's really hard to see how "light" equates to "agile." Could somebody please help me to understand this?

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Postby Mr Blonde » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:48 pm

At first I didn't like these SS handles at all. But the Scorpius and Kiwi have turned me to the steel side. I don't mind the material at all and prefer it for its ability to be easily cleaned and the great ergos it can offer. Ti is perfect since that adds more grip to the metal handle.

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Postby dialex » Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:02 am

I love FRN too. But, just like Jeff, I understand the need of having a bit of heft in a knife sometimes. Not too heavy, just enough to give you a sense that you carry a knife ;)
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Postby Irish Lager » Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:07 am

I am one of the SS supporters here. I prefer a knife to have a bit of heft. The knives that get carried the most are my SS ones, and in truth i don't think there are many set backs. The scratching is of no concern to me as it is a user knife. And i love the solid feel and durability of SS handles. Not to say that i don't like the other handle materials, but my Scorpius would not be the same w/ FRN or G10. Sometimes SS is just the way to go.
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Postby 4077th » Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:37 am

Spyderco has come a long way with stainless scaled pocketknives. The Adventura and the Stretch are deceptively lightweight. Not something you'd carry if you were wearing jogging gear but that's what Calypso Juniors are for. Hopefully Sal and Eric are in the skunkworks building working on a better handle inlay materiel for the Stretch.


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