Delica / Endura 4 FRN with bushings?

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Delica / Endura 4 FRN with bushings?

Postby TK » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:19 am

Hi,

I just looked at the online catalog and had a closer look at the new Delica / Endura 4 FRN description. In the very last sentence it is said, that the new models will have phosphor bronze bushings. Is this true or is it a fault :confused:
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Postby ront » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:39 am

Would that mean washers? I think they may have washers.

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Postby Axlis » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:49 am

I'm not sure what a "bushing" is, sounds curious...
Maybe Sal will chime in on this one shortly!

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Postby gull wing » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:20 am

I think the knives have bronze washers and not bushings. A lot of custom makers bush their knives, but manufactured knives usually are not. You have the pivot pin, then a "doughnut" of bronze around that, then the blade. This is costly and time consuming to make. Makes for a very smooth knife.

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Postby J.B » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:25 am

The catalog description says "Both models now have screw construction making cleaning and adjusting easier." If it were a bushing one could not adjust the pivot and needs very narrow tolerances. Knowing a section of their tolarences I assume, the description means PB washers. If one ask me, their designs and materials are simply the best. To become overall perfect they only need constant narrow manufacturing tolerances without rising prices too much. Please don´t say "pobody is nerfect". They could get there. ;)

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Postby sal » Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:31 pm

Yes, they're PB washers, thanx for the input. our error.

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Postby mkeeney » Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:44 pm

I'd like to see the spydie hole beveled too....

Otherwise my new Delica and Endura 4's are really great.

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Postby gabo » Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:56 pm

PB washers!? Thats it, I'm getting one. I am very impressed with all the fine improvements in this model, hope it carries over to the Native.

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Postby skcusloa » Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:18 pm

I can't find them anywhere....

I had a place that had CE enduras, but I wanted PE and they sold out....

Where are they?

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Postby NoBite » Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:16 am

You might want to give Tom a call at New Graham Knives. (866-333-4445) I ordered a Delica 4 from him Thursday last week. At that time he said they had at least one of each Delica 4 in stock with more on the way soon. I did not inquire about the Endura.

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Postby zenheretic » Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:24 am

J.B wrote:. Knowing a section of their tolarences I assume, the description means PB washers. If one ask me, their designs and materials are simply the best. To become overall perfect they only need constant narrow manufacturing tolerances without rising prices too much. Please don´t say "pobody is nerfect". They could get there. ]
sal wrote:Yes, they're PB washers, thanx for the input. our error.

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Postby sal » Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:04 am

Warren Osborne says;

"Perfection is impossible, strive for excellence".

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Postby J.B » Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:12 am

Wise words, Sal - ok, rub it in - I should not drink and write. Blame it on Jacky D. :D

By the way I like adjustable pivots with PB washers much more than bushings.

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Postby sal » Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:42 am

Hi MKeeney,

Welcome to the Spyderco forum and thanx for the support.

It is not likely that we would begin bevelling the opening holes. We've done that in the past and found, that while it might "look" better, the function of the hole as an opener was better without the chamfer. In fact, a great deal of effort is extended to make the sure the hole is sharp enough to "bite", but not sharp enough to "cut".

We would rather be the knife in your pocket, because is "works" better, than the knife in your showcase, because it "looks" better.

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Postby SoCal Operator » Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:51 pm

Perhaps a bit off-topic, but does anyone know when the waved Endura/Delica 4's are shipping?
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Postby ront » Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:22 pm

sal wrote: We would rather be the knife in your pocket, because is "works" better, than the knife in your showcase, because it "looks" better.

sal
That exactly, is why I love Spyderco and their knives!! I would much rather have a knife that works well than one than looks good.

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Postby redhawk44p » Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:03 pm

For heavens sake don't bevel the hole! :eek: It took an hour of work to remove that darn bevel from the hole of my Pika. That bevel makes your thumb loose traction.

Spydercos are handsome knives not pretty knives.


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