Swick (refined SPOT) update
Swick (refined SPOT) update
Time for an update.
Thanx to our testers and many comments on the "Swick" design I would like to get more input.
(The "Swick" design is an refinement of the original SPOT design. Prompted by two forumites, that also tested concept models. The handle has been improved in ergos, but still uses the same basic shape. The blade is a 2.25" (2.125" on the original) warncliffe pattern).
We thank them for their efforts.
My current thought is to produce 500 pcs as an experiemental run. We would use the larger 23mm hole as used on the SPOT. We would use the same warncliffe shape as tested, but increase the length to 2.25" (57mm). We would use 4mm CPM-S30V, full flat grind, "stonewash" finish.
We could provide a "slip sheath", which would have mounting holes but no clip......or we could provide a clip, but cost goes up, depending on the type of clip.
I'd like to know if there is any interest?
I'd like to know sheath preferences?
I might also mention that there are other Swick design variations in the works. One is rescue oriented and inspired by a customer at the Blade show.
Please let me know what you think.
sal
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Thanx to our testers and many comments on the "Swick" design I would like to get more input.
(The "Swick" design is an refinement of the original SPOT design. Prompted by two forumites, that also tested concept models. The handle has been improved in ergos, but still uses the same basic shape. The blade is a 2.25" (2.125" on the original) warncliffe pattern).
We thank them for their efforts.
My current thought is to produce 500 pcs as an experiemental run. We would use the larger 23mm hole as used on the SPOT. We would use the same warncliffe shape as tested, but increase the length to 2.25" (57mm). We would use 4mm CPM-S30V, full flat grind, "stonewash" finish.
We could provide a "slip sheath", which would have mounting holes but no clip......or we could provide a clip, but cost goes up, depending on the type of clip.
I'd like to know if there is any interest?
I'd like to know sheath preferences?
I might also mention that there are other Swick design variations in the works. One is rescue oriented and inspired by a customer at the Blade show.
Please let me know what you think.
sal
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My Dear Mr. Glesser,
Sign me up for one - I would love to put it through the paces. :D
Very much so.
That would be another one well worth having. Please keep us updated as things progress!
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Sign me up for one - I would love to put it through the paces. :D
This sounds like a very serious blade. :Dsal wrote:My current thought is to produce 500 pcs as an experiemental run. We would use the larger 23mm hole as used on the SPOT. We would use the same warncliffe shape as tested, but increase the length to 2.25" (57mm). We would use 4mm CPM-S30V, full flat grind, "stonewash" finish.
I would like to see a sheath that would permit attachment of an optional Tek-Lok clip]I'd like to know if there is any interest? [/QUOTE]sal wrote:We could provide a "slip sheath", which would have mounting holes but no clip......or we could provide a clip, but cost goes up, depending on the type of clip.
Very much so.
Again, similar to the SPOT or Ronin would be fine]I might also mention that there are other Swick design variations in the works. One is rescue oriented and inspired by a customer at the Blade show. [/QUOTE]sal wrote:I'd like to know sheath preferences?
That would be another one well worth having. Please keep us updated as things progress!
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My sincerest thanks,
Hannibal
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Sign me up! I'll pre-order too.
The overall design sounds very nice. A mix between utility and MBC. Sounds like you're not too sure about the sheath yet. I would suggest no clip, but drill a couple of holes in such a way to allow a (mini) tek-lok. Most of us have at least one of those things lying around. And it can easily be ordered after-market. This way most people who want a clip can have one, while the rest of us are left with a more affordable knife.
I would prefer the sheath to be a minimalist as possible, without sacrificing security. I never minded the tension-screw on the SPOT and Ronin sheaths. The perfect sheath, should be operated with one hand, by using the thumb to push the sheath away. In this way, you have a very nice 'pocket fixed-blade'.
I'm not too sure about the cord channel construction used with the SPOT. It positioned the knife in a very stable position, but it adds bulk and printed under shirts. I also always figured it would cause more tear to the cord, with possible sharp edges/corners and all.
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The overall design sounds very nice. A mix between utility and MBC. Sounds like you're not too sure about the sheath yet. I would suggest no clip, but drill a couple of holes in such a way to allow a (mini) tek-lok. Most of us have at least one of those things lying around. And it can easily be ordered after-market. This way most people who want a clip can have one, while the rest of us are left with a more affordable knife.
I would prefer the sheath to be a minimalist as possible, without sacrificing security. I never minded the tension-screw on the SPOT and Ronin sheaths. The perfect sheath, should be operated with one hand, by using the thumb to push the sheath away. In this way, you have a very nice 'pocket fixed-blade'.
I'm not too sure about the cord channel construction used with the SPOT. It positioned the knife in a very stable position, but it adds bulk and printed under shirts. I also always figured it would cause more tear to the cord, with possible sharp edges/corners and all.
Wouter
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I Liked The Sheath That Came With The Ronin, Very Nice With The Tec Loc, Also Could Be Used As A Neck Sheath. Could You Do The Sheath In Od Green Or Coyote Brown, Kinda Tired Of Black Kydex.
The Reason I Like This Sheath As I Used It As A Neck Sheath, But When I Sold This Knife In The Picture To My Brother He Wanted It For Belt Carry So He Put The Tec Lock Back On, Very Versatile. It Could Be Converted So Quickly And That Is Nice, It Can Appeal To More People. By The Way The Guy Who Made Those Ronin Sheaths Pictured Did An Excellent Job His Work Was Top Notch! #9
I Liked The Sheath That Came With The Ronin, Very Nice With The Tec Loc, Also Could Be Used As A Neck Sheath. Could You Do The Sheath In Od Green Or Coyote Brown, Kinda Tired Of Black Kydex.
The Reason I Like This Sheath As I Used It As A Neck Sheath, But When I Sold This Knife In The Picture To My Brother He Wanted It For Belt Carry So He Put The Tec Lock Back On, Very Versatile. It Could Be Converted So Quickly And That Is Nice, It Can Appeal To More People. By The Way The Guy Who Made Those Ronin Sheaths Pictured Did An Excellent Job His Work Was Top Notch! #9
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Hi RLR, thanx for the push and the tests. I guess I if you want one to use, they can't be that bad?
I'm not taking any pre-orders, just getting input.
A simple slip sheath just covering the blade with a one hand "thumb-push-off" (PTO :rolleyes: ) would be the minimum and could be carried in a pocket or pack. Tech-Loks are pretty expensive and by the time you add neck carrry features and chain, you end up spending $25 - $30 for the sheath.
I'd liked to be realistic on cost. So how many of you want all of the bells and whistles in a sheath? And might we be better off, as Wouter suggested, for you to have it custom made for your needs, get us out of the middle and save some dough. A slip sheath could serve in the mean-time. We would locate the rivets to align to a tech-lok in case you had one "laying around".
Hey #9, thanx for the compliment. They're being made by a local sheath-maker in Golden. He would make the sheaths for this model. I'll let him know.
sal
I'm not taking any pre-orders, just getting input.
A simple slip sheath just covering the blade with a one hand "thumb-push-off" (PTO :rolleyes: ) would be the minimum and could be carried in a pocket or pack. Tech-Loks are pretty expensive and by the time you add neck carrry features and chain, you end up spending $25 - $30 for the sheath.
I'd liked to be realistic on cost. So how many of you want all of the bells and whistles in a sheath? And might we be better off, as Wouter suggested, for you to have it custom made for your needs, get us out of the middle and save some dough. A slip sheath could serve in the mean-time. We would locate the rivets to align to a tech-lok in case you had one "laying around".
Hey #9, thanx for the compliment. They're being made by a local sheath-maker in Golden. He would make the sheaths for this model. I'll let him know.
sal
I think I'd love a Swick. It would be ideal for climbing imo, especially with a sheath that can be attached on different places one way or another.
Only problem will be acquiring one from here . Money is an issue I'm afraid.
But a Swick with sheath with some predrilled holes with which I can fashion something, for about 50 euros...perfect.
Only problem will be acquiring one from here . Money is an issue I'm afraid.
But a Swick with sheath with some predrilled holes with which I can fashion something, for about 50 euros...perfect.
Hey Sal
The swik sounds great, sign me up for one!
The slip sheath mentioned without the clip would be my choice, s30v :cool:
Let me know when I should send in payment. :)
Michael & Stephanie in Atlanta...
The swik sounds great, sign me up for one!
The slip sheath mentioned without the clip would be my choice, s30v :cool:
Let me know when I should send in payment. :)
Michael & Stephanie in Atlanta...
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I'd love a Swick with a clipless sheath! AUS-6 or higher (even S30V :p ) works for me.
Thanks, Sal and RLR!
Thanks, Sal and RLR!
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