Lil' Temperance??

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Lil' Temperance??

Postby JD Spydo » Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:59 pm

The Lil' Temperance. Who designed it? Why did they cease production on it. It was probably the most popular knife for one that they didn't make many of. Now that it's gone it seems like everyone I meet in Spyderville now wants one. Ok folks! What's the deal? :confused: :spyder: :cool:

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Postby DAYWALKER » Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:05 pm

Aloha JDSpydo!

Think Sal designed this one in house. I dunno why the halt in production, but I did see them going for 99$ at sportsmansguide.com. (Not the trailing point, but the "leaf" point!!!)

Now...about that there Ronin... ;)

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Postby HoB » Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:34 pm

I don't think it was overly popular. It is one of my favorite knives of all time, but unfortunately I am not "all the world" :p . The Lil' T has Sal name quite literally written (all) over it. On the clip to be specific. Very sad to see that one go, but all is well in Spyderville, as the Lil'T 2 is scheduled for some time this year, if I am not mistaken.

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Postby Jimmy_Dean » Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:48 pm

ahhh the lil'...
it's quite possibly the spyderco folder that got the most emotions out of me...ever. Everything about it was just perfect for what I like. Hopefully, I'll be able to snatch one on ebay someday. The problem with discontinued models is that they become 'collectible' and then I would hesitate to use it as it should....who said life was easy?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the second generation of Lil will be "inferior" to this one, right? With FRN handles, VG-10 blade and possibly a front lock? Still a hell of a knife but not what I have been drooling all over for a year+...

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Postby gabo » Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:07 pm

I don't know why it is, but sometimes it takes me a long time to "come around" to a particular knife design. For instance, the SPOT did not strike me as anything special when it first came out, but 1 month ago I was needing(ok, wanting) a very small fixed blade, and it struck me immediately that the SPOT was perfect. More than perfect, way ahead of its time. So now I am faced with the dilemma weather to buy every knife Spyderco is discontinuing, just to be safe or just suffer without. :) :) :D :D

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Postby golem » Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:19 pm

Well, I think one reason lil'temperance was not very popular is because it's a little bit too pricy for such a little knife. I would love to see spyderco come up with a lower-cost one, it definately gona sell better on the market if its "street price" is around $80~90. VG-10 is fine as it's pretty darn good steel. However, I don't think Sal will go that far to FRN handles, as it's quite opposite to the purpose of this knife -- selfdefense. I guess it may come up with a simpler handle design which unlike the previous one, does not require human in finishing.

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Postby jbake » Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:54 pm

The Lil' T is just about my favorite Spyderco.

I held what I think was a prototype of the Lil' T II at Blade last year.

It had green polymer (FRN?) scales and seemed slimmer and more rounded. I honestly can't remember what kind of lock it had.

That was a while back and my memory stinks - it also could have changed a good bit since then.

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Postby DAYWALKER » Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:12 am

Aloha JB!!!

Hah! Yeah right your memory stinks! LOL! Your chewing gum OTOH... :p


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Postby i.v » Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:14 am

it would be nice to see a "cheaper" version of it so i can get it too :D
vg10 blade, hell, even ats55 ot aus8 will do & frn instead of the g10, other than that. leave it the way it is :)

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Postby sal » Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:31 am

The probs with Lil' Temp production were in vendor problems.

There will be a Lil' Temp in the future. We're still working on which variation to make. FRN, Carbon Fiber, Titanium?

Hoping for a late '05 intro.

sal

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Postby argyll » Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:00 pm

Sal,

If things are stil being bandied about, I'd like to advocate for a deeper pocket clip.

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Postby HoB » Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:31 pm

Arrrghhh, Mr. Glesser!!!! You have the uncanny ability of making me drop things!!!! When I read Ti, and CF Lil' T it just happened again, luckily I didn't spill my coke all over the keyboard :p .

A Lil'T in Ti....Pleeeeeeease!!!! :D

Golem, I don't know if you ever handled the current Lil'T. Even though the specs make it sound like a small knife, but even in comparison to the Chinook II and the even the Manix, it is not small. Actually I would put it in about the same size category as the Chinook

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With all due respect

Postby JD Spydo » Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:33 pm

sal wrote:The probs with Lil' Temp production were in vendor problems.

There will be a Lil' Temp in the future. We're still working on which variation to make. FRN, Carbon Fiber, Titanium?

Hoping for a late '05 intro.

sal
Sir please consider this. On handle Material. Please do Carbon Fiber & Titanium both. If you do FRN then also make it an economical version with even another blade steel like AUS-10 or VG-10. Also I would like to see the big Temperance in S30V with a holster type sheath. As usual just a suggestion. Does anyone agree with me? :)

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Postby Ted » Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:06 pm

I like it just the way it is :D :D :D
So, how about a 'bye-bye-final-goodbye' run in black G-10? :)

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Postby golem » Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:52 pm

Holy crap!

What did I just read?

A titanium integral compression lock Lil'Temperance???!!!

Yeeeeeheeheehee...
Muuuuuhaahaahaa...
I am a happy man...
eh...
Grab me another beer...
BURP!

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Postby Joe Talmadge » Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:38 pm

I think the Lil Temp bears the distinction of being my favorite Spyderco knife that I never bought. [not sure that parses right :) ] I love the concept, like a Calypso Jr. on steroids. Rock solid security in the handle, strong lock, and that great flat-ground blade shape.

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Postby Jimmy_Dean » Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:38 pm

ti Lil'!?!
where do I sign?

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Postby jbake » Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:28 pm

OK... I'll be the voice of [respectful] dissent.

I don't think I would like the Ti or Carbon Fiber.

I like the way G10 grabs you back. The ergonomics of that knife and the grippy G10 are what make that knife so good, IMHO.

Ti or Carbon Fiber would be too slick.
So I would personally like to see FRN. Would be cheaper too.

A final run of black G10 Lil T's would be awesome.

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Postby Carlos » Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:42 am

I'm not likely to be a Lil Temp user, being in the 21st century slipjoint camp now, so take this suggestion for whatever it is worth:

Combined with an FRN handle, this would be the perfect opportunity to have a regular production model with ZDP-189 steel.

Paired with a limited production S30V stateside-made model, with either a CF or Ti handle to satisfy the high-end user.
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Postby HoB » Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:52 pm

As long as you keep the compression lock, I could be talked into a FRN with a ZDP-189 blade :-). But I don't think that Spyderco will make a FRN handled knife with compression lock?!


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