Culling time - need opinions

[sal]

The time has come for Spyderco to start making decisions as to what will remain in the line for 2002 and w2hat will be retired to make room for new models.



Below, the models are listed. Please select 10 for retirement.



1. Police Model Stainless handle

2. Police Model G10 handle

3. Harpy Stainless handle

4. Merlin FRN handle

5. Endura Stainless handle

6. Endura FRN handle

7. Endura Trainer (red FRN)

8. Delica stainless handle

9. Delica FRN handle

10. Delica trainer (red FRN)

11. CoPilot

12. Pro Grip Stainless/kraton handle

13. Pro Grip FRN/Kraton handle

14. Catcherman FRN handle

15. Rescue black or orangve FRN handle

16. Rescue Jr. black or orange FRN handle

17. Snap it

18. Remote Release

19. Dragonfly stainless handle

20. Dragonfly FRN handle

21. Cricket black FRN handle

22. Ladybug FRN handle (black,red,blue)

23. Ladybug II FRN handle (sheepfoot)

24. Military G10 handle

25. Dyad Micarta handle

26. Dyad jr FRN handle

27. Native stainless handle

28. Native black FRN handle

29. Calypso Jr. stainless handle

30. Calypso Jr. black FRN handle

31. Navigator

32. Viele

33. Bob Lum Tanto

34. Tim Wegner

35. Peter Herbst

36. Bob Terzuola Starmate

37. Tim Zowada

38. D'Holder Toad

39. JD Smith

40. Eduar Bradichansky Shabaria

41. Massad Ayoob

42. James Keating Chinook

43. Bob Lum Chinese Folder

44. Frank Centofante Vesuvious

45. Eduard Bradichansky Spydercard

46. Bill Moran FB trailing point

47. Bill Moran FB drop point

48. Bram Frank Gunting

49. Bram Frank Gunting trainer

50. Police model necklace

51. Police model tie clip



Thank you.



sal

[Brian_Turner]

1. JD Smith
2. Tim Zowada
3. Native Stainless Steel
4. Merlin FRN
5. Police Tie Clip
6. Police Necklace
7. Pro Grip FRN/Kraton
8. Snapit
9. Rescue Jr.
10. Dragonfly FRN

[Tom Percy]

You ask a toughie ..... how do you have the nerve to cancel so many lives of so many great knives. I guess the trick is to keep the best of the best.

Well, here's my cut at it, as difficult as it is (not in any particular order);
Police G10
CoPolit
Progrip stainless
Catcherman
Rescue Jr.
Ladybug II
Dyad Micarta
Dyad FRN
Tim Zowanda
Eduar Bradichansky Shabara

[stu]

Sal,

#12 Pro Girp Stainless/kraton handle
#13 Pro Grip FRN/Kraton handle
#19 Dragonfly stainless handle
#20 Dragonfly FRN handle
#31 Navigator
#37 Tim Zowada
#38 D'Holder Toad
#39 J.D. Smith
#40 Eduar Bradichansky Shabaria
#51 Police model tie clip

This is very difficult.

Sincerely,

stu

[Carlos]

1. Police G10 (the ss version sells better, and the G10 serves the same niche as the Military)

2. Endura 2 (roughly the same niche as the ss Police)

3. Delica 2 (will be replaced by aluminum and Ti "Salsas&quot<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

4. Co-Pilot (Navigator is a more advanced design)

5. Dragonfly 2 (Almite Navigator fills the metal handle 2" blade niche, keep the FRN version)

6. Tim Zowda

7. Toad

8. JD Smith (i've heard that this doesn't sell well)

9. Police necklace

10. Police tie-clip

11. ss Pro-grip

12. Wegner (It isn't selling. Perhaps replace with new Wegner 2 and different marketing?)

[charlie]

Difficult choices, but here is my list of 10 candidates:
11. CoPilot
12. ProGrip ss
13. ProGrip frn
31. Navigator
35. Peter Herbst
39. JD Smith
46. Bill Moran trailing pt.
47. Bill Moran drop pt.
50. Police Necklace
51. Police Tie Clip

[shootist16]

This is incredibly hard for me to say, but the best thing to do for the company would be to let the market decide. I would cut the models that are not selling well or that are not meeting acceptable profits. No matter what gets cut some people won't be happy. However, the ultimate goal should be to maximize profitability while producing a great product.
If I had to pick from this list the following 10 would get cut:

SS Police (g-10 version should be replacement)
Pro Grip FRN/Kraton handle
Snap it
Remote Release
Navigator
Tim Zowada
D'Holder Toad
JD Smith
Eduard Bradichansky Shabaria
Eduard Bradichansky Spydecard

I will also agree with others who say the Mouse should be in the regular lineup and replace the toad and navigator.

I love the Wegner, but could live without it if it is replaced with the Wegner II.


Dennis Bible

[jyork]

I agree these are tough choices, but here are mine in no particular order.
Pro Grip FRN/Kraton handle
Catcherman FRN handle
Snap it
Remote Release
Bill Moran FB trailing point
Bill Moran FB drop point
Police model necklace
Police model tie clip
Peter Herbst
CoPilot

[cutler34]

Here's my thoughts and why.
#50 Police model necklace.
Make way for a new miniature Spyderco model each year or different inlays.

#51 police tie clip.Same reasons as above.

#1 Police model stainless steel.
I prefer G10 for grip.

#17 Snap it.
The remote release is a much better hook type retainer.Maybe with a sheepsfoot blade.

#16 Rescue junior.
The rescue fills the bill here.

#25 Dyad micarta
#26 Dyad jnr FRN

#38 Toad.
Make the mouse a regular line.Hopefully reduce the price also.

#40 Shabaria.
Time for new models

#39 JD smith.
Same as above.


Regards
Ricki
info@outdooredge.com.au
Spyderco Club Member

[vampyrewolf]

1. Police Model Stainless handle
2. Endura Stainless handle
3. CoPilot
4. Remote Release
5. Dragonfly FRN handle
7. Native stainless handle
8. Calypso Jr. stainless handle
9. Peter Herbst
10. Tim Zowada


Edited by - vampyrewolf on 8/6/2001 2:07:20 PM

[thorin hammer]

n order.

1. Police Model Stainless handle
10. Delica trainer (red FRN)
11. CoPilot
12. Pro Grip Stainless/kraton handle
26. Dyad jr FRN handle
29. Calypso Jr. stainless handle
34. Tim Wegner
46. Bill Moran FB trailing point
47. Bill Moran FB drop point
Make new fixed blade models.
50. Police model necklace
51. Police model tie clip

It is so hard to make this decision when you want them all. Is there any hope of ever bringing any of the discontinued models back?


Ehh, supposed to be Thorin... : )

[Philip357]

Sal,
Really tough !
My personal choice, if you can call it that ... (I know some will certainly not agree)
#12 Pro Grip Stainless/kraton handle
#13 Pro Grip FRN/Kraton handle
#18 Remote release
#27 Stainless Native
#32 Viele
#37 Tim Zowada
#38 D'Holder Toad
#39 J.D. Smith
#48 & 49 Gunting & trainer (sorry fans)
Philip

[gadfly]

The two things I would surely get rid of are the jewelry pieces:
#50 - Police Model Necklace
#51 - Police Model Tie Clip
Spydie Knives are great tools - it's what you do best.

I hate voting against any Spdie's, but I'll give you a couple:
#1 - Police Stainless (G-10 is better)
#29 - Calypso Jr Stainless

Four knives that should remain in the Spydie line are as follows:
#24 - Military - My personal favorite
#36 - Starmate - Such a good looking knife
#48 - Gunting - Way too interesting
#49 - Gunting trainer - Needed for training with the Gunting.

I'm glad the final isn't mine!


One way or the other, you pay for your tools!

[br44]

Sorry, but I came up with 12. #s 1,3,8,10,13,16,25,27,31,38,39,40

[The Stare]

My suggestions:
1. Police Model Stainless handle
2. Harpy Stainless handle
3. Endura Stainless handle
4. Delica stainless handle
5. CoPilot
6. Pro Grip Stainless/kraton handle
7. Peter Herbst
8. Tim Zowada
9. D'Holder Toad
10. Police model tie clip

Or, for the most part, believe all stainless handles could go. Too **** slippery & heavy.


Stare

[anyman]

Let's take a shot at this

12-progrip
13-progrip
14-catcherman
32-Viele
35-Herbst
40-Shabaria
46-Moran
47-Moran
50-necklace
51-tie clip

[tortoise]

1. Merlin FRN
2. Rescue Jr.
3. Snap-It
4. Native stainless handle
5. Ayoob
6. Herbst
7. Shabaria
8. Dyad Jr.
9. Police model necklace
10. Police model tie-clip

[Ewok]

I'd have to go along with dumping the large stainless steel models. Ditto the jewelry. Also the Starmate. I'm glad I have mine, but you have more ergonomic models in that size.

I'd give the Shabaria a little more time, but what do I know? <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> I'd keep the trainers, and work up a 'PC' marketing campaign aimed at self-defense for women. Sell a package of Delica knife, trainer, and video tape. Wouldn't that be something if it took off?

I'd guess that the Bob Lum Tanto isn't a perennial best seller.

The Catcherman has never appealed to me, but neither has fishing. Ditto the Toad, and, um, toading. <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

I'd keep the Merlin FRN, especially plain edge, since I use one very often for letters and packages.

I think the Vesuvious could sell well, but I'm not sure what the production version is.

I'd keep one of the Moran fixed-blade models, at least for a year.

WRT the Gunting series, Bram indicates that there are a lot of LEA interested in it. That could translate to a lot of units sold....