OT - Ghosts
Check out this website. http://www.libraryghost.com/ This is an old library in my home town. My experience with ghost is as follows, I was in a meeting on the second floor board room of this library and three solid raps were heard on the door. I quickly stood up to see who was at the door...no one to be found. I am convinced it was the Grey Lady.
Heres a right up on the web about the church that is about 4 miles from my house.I have been to it and I do get a very creepy feeling but I have never done what you are suppose to in order to be able to see the stuff.I know a couple guys that have and said they saw very strange things,the one guy said that 3 of them went up there one night and saw alot includeing the man hanging in the church.
Harriman - Swan Pond Community Church - It has been heard that the pastor of this church hung himself in one of the rooms in the church. There has been a lot of people that have heard noises when no one or nothing was around. In pictures you can see different sizes and orb shapes. You can hear doors slam, and at night, it has been told that you can see red or green lights that are shaped like eyes. It has also been told that on a certain Saturday of the month, if you drive three circles around this church at a specific time, you will see nothing around you, every thing seems to disappear momentarily. All of the windows and doors are boarded, but they still have services here but only on Sunday morning. It is said that there are only a handful of people that attend, its strange because the church is enormous.
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Harriman - Swan Pond Community Church - It has been heard that the pastor of this church hung himself in one of the rooms in the church. There has been a lot of people that have heard noises when no one or nothing was around. In pictures you can see different sizes and orb shapes. You can hear doors slam, and at night, it has been told that you can see red or green lights that are shaped like eyes. It has also been told that on a certain Saturday of the month, if you drive three circles around this church at a specific time, you will see nothing around you, every thing seems to disappear momentarily. All of the windows and doors are boarded, but they still have services here but only on Sunday morning. It is said that there are only a handful of people that attend, its strange because the church is enormous.
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There is also a very old graveyard about 1/2 mile east of I 40 at the Harriman exit that I know for a fact to be haunted.I and a couple of my friends have been in it many times.It is creepy during the day but at night things really get going.At the time it was very overgrown and had been dug into.A couple years before a very important man around here bought some land at the bottom of the hill from the site along the highway.
No one ever wanted this land because there was not enough room to develope it.This man cut back into the bank.In the prosses he dug into several graves.Instead of paying the cost of moveing them he just hauled them away with the dirt.He died suddenly about 2 weeks after this and one of the guys that was working for him reported what he had done.The city went in and moved the graves that were left that had been distrubed.I never felt anything bad but I did feel a presence and saw some things that were unexplainable.I guess because I never went there to disturb anything,just to look around at the old tombstones.The worst thing is that when thay moved the remains they left behind pieces of casket(sp?)and scraps of clothing.It was a very sad site to see.
I had heard that before they cleaned the place up a little and posted a family members only sign that several boys that had gone in just to scare each other or for other silly purposes had comeing running out crying never to go near it again.
If I make it down that way to day I will try to get a pic of the enterance,wich is now at the back of a Taco Bell parking lot.
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No one ever wanted this land because there was not enough room to develope it.This man cut back into the bank.In the prosses he dug into several graves.Instead of paying the cost of moveing them he just hauled them away with the dirt.He died suddenly about 2 weeks after this and one of the guys that was working for him reported what he had done.The city went in and moved the graves that were left that had been distrubed.I never felt anything bad but I did feel a presence and saw some things that were unexplainable.I guess because I never went there to disturb anything,just to look around at the old tombstones.The worst thing is that when thay moved the remains they left behind pieces of casket(sp?)and scraps of clothing.It was a very sad site to see.
I had heard that before they cleaned the place up a little and posted a family members only sign that several boys that had gone in just to scare each other or for other silly purposes had comeing running out crying never to go near it again.
If I make it down that way to day I will try to get a pic of the enterance,wich is now at the back of a Taco Bell parking lot.
<img src=http://techhelpers.net/e4u/drink/trink36.gif
There are no such things as ghosts. I am really surprised at some of you. I all ways come to believe that members of these knife forums were of above average intelligence. I am shocked to be reading these stories. I have been to many so called "haunted" places in my early years as an adult. These places include Burg Thurant in Germany, Machu Pichu in Peru, and many others. I have heard all of the stories and superstitions leading up to how these places have become haunted and cursed. My best friend from high school was a student at Duke Univ. school of Parapyscology and even the professors there, indicated that there is no such credible evidence to even suggest that there are ghosts. Superstitions and ghost stories are an attempt to gain attention. My advise, seek counciling.
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thombrogan
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Wunderbar,
Lacking a valid description doesn't mean that an entity or phenomenon invalid or non-existent. Smarter people than I believe in ghosts and spirits and dumber people than I either do or don't.
Before folks like Leuenhook (sp) spoke of germs and viewed them with microscopes, would it have been foolish to discourage their studies?
-Thom Brogan <a href="http://www.tntbrogan.com" target="_blank">Pictures</a> of our daughter, Cynthia
Lacking a valid description doesn't mean that an entity or phenomenon invalid or non-existent. Smarter people than I believe in ghosts and spirits and dumber people than I either do or don't.
Before folks like Leuenhook (sp) spoke of germs and viewed them with microscopes, would it have been foolish to discourage their studies?
-Thom Brogan <a href="http://www.tntbrogan.com" target="_blank">Pictures</a> of our daughter, Cynthia
Yeah, Yeah, I know it fun to believe in ghosts and the such. Just as everyone once believed that the world was flat, or that volcanoes were gods. For those who think that ghosts exist, why don't you start teaching this idea to your children. You wouldn't want to leave them out of the "supernatural" experience of ever being visited by by one. As they say on the street, " Man you guys are whacked!" Happy Halloween!
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thombrogan
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Which street?
"Intelligent design" is becoming popular in science, so forgive me for dismissing your dismissal as being too dismal.
-Thom Brogan <a href="http://www.tntbrogan.com" target="_blank">Pictures</a> of our daughter, Cynthia
"Intelligent design" is becoming popular in science, so forgive me for dismissing your dismissal as being too dismal.
-Thom Brogan <a href="http://www.tntbrogan.com" target="_blank">Pictures</a> of our daughter, Cynthia
Wunderbar Posted: There are no such things as ghosts. I am really surprised at some of you. I all ways come to believe that members of these knife forums were of above average intelligence. >>>>>
Sir, I find your message to be snide and offensive. Obnoxious, really.
Frankly, it is you I find having the questionable intelligence.
You are the type of person that is close-minded and has to see and/or touch something to believe in it. Of course, that's your prerogative.
I get a kick out of people who, just because they can't see something, don't believe in it.
Can you see wind? Can you capture it? Photograph it? Still, we know it's there.
How about magnetism? Do you see that? Can you touch it? But it's there, isn't it?
And finally...I am someone who has seen a family member standing in a hallway several hours after his death. So don't tell me there aren't ghosts, because I'm telling you that you're full of sh1t.
Sniper -- One Shot, One Kill Email: ST8PEN01@aol.com
Sir, I find your message to be snide and offensive. Obnoxious, really.
Frankly, it is you I find having the questionable intelligence.
You are the type of person that is close-minded and has to see and/or touch something to believe in it. Of course, that's your prerogative.
I get a kick out of people who, just because they can't see something, don't believe in it.
Can you see wind? Can you capture it? Photograph it? Still, we know it's there.
How about magnetism? Do you see that? Can you touch it? But it's there, isn't it?
And finally...I am someone who has seen a family member standing in a hallway several hours after his death. So don't tell me there aren't ghosts, because I'm telling you that you're full of sh1t.
Sniper -- One Shot, One Kill Email: ST8PEN01@aol.com
I've always believed that there were others around us all the time but our senses aren't in tune enough to feel them. I live in St. Louis, MO home of the infamous Lemp Mansion where numerous members of the Lemp family commited suicide. I've been to the Mansion numerous times (and proposed to my wife there) and haven't seen anything odd however, there is definately a heavy feeling in the air especially near the rear of the house near the vaults. However, a friend of mine who has done a tour of the house with a paranormal investigative team (as can be arranged on Monday nights) has seen a few odd things including spheres of light and feeling cold breezes/feelings of dread. Another area of paranormal interest is the store which my grandfather has owned since the late 40's in the south city. The building which is over 100 years old was home to many different businesses before my grandpa bought it, most notably a carriage company owned by two German gents around the 1920's. When business went bad for them, they were both found hanging in the basement from the rafters (a real feat since the basement is only 5.5 feet or so high). My grandpa who ran a business in the building from the 40's to the early 90's noted a few disturbances including things being moved after being put down, noises in the basement and third floor (an old ballroom with a cool spire), and cold breezes stemming from the basement. This was always enough to keep me out of the upstairs apartments and basement except on dire errands for my grandfather. A sad thing though is that over the last two years, water has seeped through the tar roof and into the third floor making it almost impossible to manuver. The last time my grandfather and I went up there to look around, he almost lost a leg (or more) when 4 floor boards gave way and his leg went through to the second floor.
Happy Halloween!
Matt
Happy Halloween!
Matt
Wunderbar Posted: Jim, kiss my a**. Magnetism and wind can be measured several ways, and sir, the only ghosts you know of, come out of your a**! >>>
From what you posted, it pretty much gives away your level of intellect, not to mention class (or major lack of it).
I find it interesting that you seem to think YOU know what I saw in the hallway that night after my father-in-law passed away better than I do. I saw it with my own eyes, and that's all the measurement that I need.
You know, it's amazing how brave and mouthy some people become when they can hide behind a keyboard. Keyboard Kommando Syndrome, I believe it's called.
Good day, sir.
Sniper -- One Shot, One Kill Email: ST8PEN01@aol.com
From what you posted, it pretty much gives away your level of intellect, not to mention class (or major lack of it).
I find it interesting that you seem to think YOU know what I saw in the hallway that night after my father-in-law passed away better than I do. I saw it with my own eyes, and that's all the measurement that I need.
You know, it's amazing how brave and mouthy some people become when they can hide behind a keyboard. Keyboard Kommando Syndrome, I believe it's called.
Good day, sir.
Sniper -- One Shot, One Kill Email: ST8PEN01@aol.com
Jim posted: (So don't tell me there aren't ghosts, because I'm telling you that you're full of sh1t.)
Jim, from what you originally posted, it pretty much tells me that you are very passionate about your beliefs.
You are right, I don't know what you saw in the hallway, but I don't believe that it was a ghost. You were probrably grieving from your loss. The mind plays tricks on you during times of fatigue and/or emotional stress. I can contend to that first hand. When I was a Sgt. in the Army, I attended Ranger School. During the Desert Phase, one young LT was so tired that he was talking to a rock. He thought it was his wife.
I apologize for stirring up this negativity. Oh yeah, and Jim, I'm sorry for your loss. Best regards, Wunderbar.
Jim, from what you originally posted, it pretty much tells me that you are very passionate about your beliefs.
You are right, I don't know what you saw in the hallway, but I don't believe that it was a ghost. You were probrably grieving from your loss. The mind plays tricks on you during times of fatigue and/or emotional stress. I can contend to that first hand. When I was a Sgt. in the Army, I attended Ranger School. During the Desert Phase, one young LT was so tired that he was talking to a rock. He thought it was his wife.
I apologize for stirring up this negativity. Oh yeah, and Jim, I'm sorry for your loss. Best regards, Wunderbar.
Wunderbar Posted: When I was a Sgt. in the Army, I attended Ranger School. During the Desert Phase, one young LT was so tired that he was talking to a rock. He thought it was his wife.
I apologize for stirring up this negativity. Oh yeah, and Jim, I'm sorry for your loss. Best regards, Wunderbar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sir, I also apologize for my strong reaction. Perhaps it was my mind, perhaps not.
I'm not sure if there are "ghosts", and if so, what they are, or "who" they are. I think one possibility is that somehow, time loops around (kind of like a movie reel), and we might be seeing into another dimension of another time. Einstein had some theories on this, though I'm not thoroughly familiar with them.
My hat's off to you for being a Ranger. I was a sniper for a tactical team, and have a good idea of what exhaustion is; I began sniper school after having had an hours' sleep the night before and a long drive to the school.
At any rate, I don't think any of us here can definitively answer whether or not there are "ghosts"; some of us have seen some very odd things. Others have not.
One curious thing is that very large groups of people have witnessed allegedly supernatural events during the filming of the movie, Gettysburg, which was filmed on the battlefield.
I'm not sure that ALL these people are having their minds play the same trick on each of them, at the same time. Something about that makes me curious.
Sniper -- One Shot, One Kill Email: ST8PEN01@aol.com
I apologize for stirring up this negativity. Oh yeah, and Jim, I'm sorry for your loss. Best regards, Wunderbar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sir, I also apologize for my strong reaction. Perhaps it was my mind, perhaps not.
I'm not sure if there are "ghosts", and if so, what they are, or "who" they are. I think one possibility is that somehow, time loops around (kind of like a movie reel), and we might be seeing into another dimension of another time. Einstein had some theories on this, though I'm not thoroughly familiar with them.
My hat's off to you for being a Ranger. I was a sniper for a tactical team, and have a good idea of what exhaustion is; I began sniper school after having had an hours' sleep the night before and a long drive to the school.
At any rate, I don't think any of us here can definitively answer whether or not there are "ghosts"; some of us have seen some very odd things. Others have not.
One curious thing is that very large groups of people have witnessed allegedly supernatural events during the filming of the movie, Gettysburg, which was filmed on the battlefield.
I'm not sure that ALL these people are having their minds play the same trick on each of them, at the same time. Something about that makes me curious.
Sniper -- One Shot, One Kill Email: ST8PEN01@aol.com
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Wouldn't it be better to admit that there are facts for which we don't currently have a scientific explanation?
BTW, how would God fit those arguments? You can't see, hear, smell or touch Him, do you? Oh well, He probably doesn't exist... <img src="tongue.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
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BTW, how would God fit those arguments? You can't see, hear, smell or touch Him, do you? Oh well, He probably doesn't exist... <img src="tongue.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
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Let's keep this topic on ghosts for now.
When we talk religion, who knows whom we'll offend. Frankly, I don't want to find out who or what's right about religion.
VampyreWolf,
Have you tried the salt thing? If that doesn't work, my wife makes a potion that also works.
-Thom Brogan <a href="http://www.tntbrogan.com" target="_blank">Pictures</a> of our daughter, Cynthia
When we talk religion, who knows whom we'll offend. Frankly, I don't want to find out who or what's right about religion.
VampyreWolf,
Have you tried the salt thing? If that doesn't work, my wife makes a potion that also works.
-Thom Brogan <a href="http://www.tntbrogan.com" target="_blank">Pictures</a> of our daughter, Cynthia