Ever concidered a diff. comboedge?

[Jimmy_Dean]

I know a lot of you on this forum enjoy a good serrated edge. Personnally I much prefer plain edge because I use knives mainly for outdoors activities and serration is not the best way to go there. Yet, I realize serrations are great for self-defense since it plows through flesh but how often do I have to cut someone compared to a piece of wood? So the best of two worlds would be a combo edge, right? Well, again, the serrations are often nuisance when trying to work a branch or something. Anybody ever concidered a combo edge but the other way around? I mean the first half (from the tip to the middle of the blade) would be serrated, that way I could cut my steak and veggies while camping, and the rest would be plain edge, to get the fire going or anything else. It wouldnt be a good skinner because of the serrations but ****, it would be versatile for the back country. Plus, it would be a great self-defense knife because you can slash with the serr. and still have the advantages of a plain edge. That would be my EDC for sure and Id buy 2 on the spot. Best of both worlds for me.



-Dean

[dantecubit]

Interestingly enough, I have thought the same thing. I used to work at a restaurant and would be slicing open potato sacks a lot. Obviously, serrations worked best for this but it was hard to get the sack material on them without stabbing the potatoes (I have a comboedge SOG Flash). I thought that it would be way more convenient if the tip side were serrated (with maybe half an inch of plain edge for penetration).

[Kaizer]

Hi Jimmy_Dean,

Interestingly, I too was looking around for knives with the configuration you mentioned.
Maybe we can all (like minded folks on this topic) get toghether and try and convince Spyderco to be the first knife company in the world to do this???!!!

Have a nice day,
Kaizer.

A door half open is a door half closed. But a knife half open is a knife fully closed.

[dynaryder]

Someone posted a pic once of a Police model like that;the serrations were out toward the tip. Victorinox currently makes a knife like this:the One-Handed Trailmaster. The first 1/3 is plain,the rest serrated. Just to make the knife even odder,the liner lock is also set up for lefties.

[Jimmy_Dean]

I really don't know why nobody ever really tried that. My bet is it would be a great everyday rescue knife as well. I read something about how some outdoorsman like to sharpen the first half of their knife very corse to make it toothy. I tried that on one of my Opinel and my corse DMT hone and it worked kind of well. If Spyderco made one with real spyderedge, that would be 100X better though. Maybe some day

-Dean

[Pyrochazm]

In case no one has noticed, every time you go into a steak resturant, the steak knives always seem to have the serrations on the first half of the knife only. Maybe they were on to something.....

"Some people prefer delusion to despair"- Nelson Munce

Edited by - pyrochazm on 4/22/2004 3:49:59 AM

[DAYWALKER]

Aloha!

As for me, my vision was to have the SE part midway through the blade, leaving PE at the tip and towards the rear. I posted about this a few months back so i won't get into it...

A neat concept in a folder though!

God will put you over...if you let Him! Mark 11:23!

[Jimmy_Dean]

Yeah, since I'm new here, that's always a concern when I start a new thread. Maybe someone already said something like that 6 months ago and everybody knows it except me. That must be why I don't start to many threads here. That being said, I still hope one will make a propotype of that one day because I'm sure it can be very useful, perharps more useful that the actual combo-edge configuration.

-Dean

[dialex]

Here's a pic with some CE models according to Daywalker's suggestion(s).
So sorry I can't find the CE Police with the serations near the tip right now.

<a href="http://users.pcnet.ro/dialex"><font color=blue>(my page)</font></a>

[thorin hammer]

A while back someone pointed out that the there is more control at the base of the blade and having it be PE would increase control for those in-close ‘pulling toward the thumb’ cuts ( i.e. slicing an apple in the hand). I think the reversed combo edge is a very good idea. I would like to try one out myself and see how it works.

I have an idea. List all the advantages of the reversed combo edge then list all the uses for the current combo edge layout and what advantages it might have over this “new” idea we are kicking around. At the moment I can think of two reasons the edge is set up with the serrations at the base. More power to begin a cut, and to stay out of the way when skinning…

So, what other advantages with the current setup? And what cutting tasks would become easier with the serrations at the tip and plain edge at the base?

Let’s see if we can hammer this idea into some definite pros and cons.

[Knife Knut]

My solution is to carry two knives, one serrated, one plainedge; usually a pair of G-10 Police.
On formal occasions, I carry my Mini Micarta Dyad.

Of course Smith & Wesson Screwed things up and knocked off the Dyad via a loophole, making further production of the verstile knife unprofitable.

John AKA Knife Knut on a shoestring budget.

[Jimmy_Dean]

I know some people do that and if I were to bring a reverse combo-edge for hunting, i'd have to bring another one anyway for skinning but one 'do it all' knife would be great, expecially for my girlfriend, who doesn't like knives to much. We could both have one, and I'd carry a bigger fixed blade on my belt for all the rest. Dialex posted a picture that looks like what I would want but maybe start the serrations a bit closer to the tip.

Pros and cons, here we go:

pros-
It would cut meat and food very easily around the camp fire, would still be very useful as a boating/fishing knife, can cut wood and use it for kiddling, wouldn't need to sharpen it as often as my plain edge in the field, great for self defense in the urban jungle, I cut rope with the middle of the blade anyway, can use the serrations for rescue applications, has the advantage of being new (would get a lot of press, like in TK)

cons-
useless for skinning, serrations will dull quickly if it contact with wood, doesn't look as good as the current setup, wouldn't be a better letter opener <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

That's all I can think of right now. I'll probably add some more soon. Since this thread didn't have as many reactions as I had hopedm I guess only a few of us see the need for that kind of knife so I don't think it will happen. Still, it would have been great.

-Dean

[Jimd]

I love the combo-edge just the way it is; both of my Natives have combo-edge, as does my Dodo.

I think, as far as serrations are concerned, Spydcero produces the best blade serrations of any knife company. They just seem to be the most aggressive and most efficient. I love 'em!

Sniper -- One Shot, One Kill Email: ST8PEN01@aol.com

[Jimmy_Dean]

I handled a serrated Police at the store and I'll agree Spyderco has some terrific serrations but my philosophie is a PE will do anything a SE will do(maybe not as easily but still) while the opposite is not the case. Until I find a reverse combo-edge, I'll stick with the PE.

-Dean

[DAYWALKER]

Aloha jimmy-dean!

Man, ya gotta look up my post on this. I preffered the serration in the middle, pe in the front AND at the base. you were absolutely correct in where fibrous materials are cut: THE MIDDLE. I notice fine cuts at the tip, and at the base. You could also tailor the pe portions...Use a med. grit at the base, and fine at the tip.

I would love to try out this concept!

God will put you over...if you let Him! Mark 11:23!

[Jimmy_Dean]

Hey Daywalker, I've been looking around the forum to find the thread you started about that subject and can't seem to find it. Can you post the adress here, so I can see what other people thought. Thanks chief

-Dean