Edgerati Prototype

[Mushroom]

Yay, a grammar thread morph! Notice how close Ramonade was to being correct, however: If the sentence were changed slightly to either: "...maybe some of whom..." or "...maybe someone who..." then it would be The King's English, either way.

So, back to the Edgerati: Is this an officially announced item...for sure it'll go into production? Or is it just a prototype to gauge interest? If official, through what venue was this announced?

How will this be for dirty/gritty environments...better or worse than a "full scaled" knife?

Any idea the weight?

I think the bird cage is an exciting concept. I can also imagine it gives a really good grip...the skin of your fingers would press slightly into the voids.

It looks like it might have won an award. It has a label at the bottom of the first photo “Most Inno…”, which I’d assume reads “Most Innovative.” I’m guessing it will still need to be featured in a Reveal catalog before it’s “official” but it appears to be it’s past the prototype stage, at least.

I also had the same concerns about working in dirty/gritty environments. There’s a window directly over the lock, which provides a cool view of the lock in action but it also provides easy exterior access to the inner workings of the lock and even then pivot. It might just be something that requires a little bit more cleaning and maintenance than the average knife but with the open scales it shouldn’t be too much of a hassle to clean out.

It’s… interesting. Looks a lot like a home modified Shaman to me, using custom made scales and a slightly reshaped blade. I would’ve preferred the original Shaman blade shape over the straight spine, personally.

I think so too concerning spine . I suppose it is to give it a look of its own or maybe a better fit of blade to scale ? Not sure . MG2

It could be because definitely has it a look of it’s own. It doesn’t exactly scream “Shaman” at first glance, and that could be the point. Still similar but just enough difference to differentiate it as it’s own knife, maybe.

The straight spine gives it a more acute tip, so I have a feeling it was primarily done to improve peircing performance.

[Ramonade]

whom* : hate this word, I'm sure I shouldn't have used it here, I never know when to use it !

Here it should have been 'who.' If it helps, who is always a subject of the sentence. It is a pronoun like I. What's more it is a WH word and often signifies a question: Who will help me with this?

In your sentence it pairs with someone and is the subject: Maybe someone who saw it... Just like: Maybe he saw it.

Whom is always the object. It is a pronoun that gets acted on by a verb or has a preposition. To whom shall we write? I wrote that letter to the person to whom it was meant.

A better way to look at it is that if you can replace he or she with a word then use who. If you can replace him or her with the word, then use whom.

This is the one who wrote me. (It is he/she who wrote me)

Four of us went to Blade Show, one of whom was the driver. (Four of us went to Blade Show, the driver was one of us).

Sorry.

It was actually a clearer explanation for me ! French is a language that took from every language that was "hype" at the moment of its creation. Its grammar became very, very complex for that reason. What you described seems to be what we'd call a passive voice sentence. That, I can understand .

Anyways, online must not be the best place to type this kind of sentence. Since people often have trouble understanding each other while they are using simple and direct sentences

Ok, let's close this parenthesis (thanks everyone). I humbly suggest to go back to the Edgerati, a knife for whom the designer was Sal Glesser.
(It was a test, I don't think I passed it)

[wrdwrght]

It’s… interesting. Looks a lot like a home modified Shaman to me, using custom made scales and a slightly reshaped blade. I would’ve preferred the original Shaman blade shape over the straight spine, personally.

I thought photographing the prototypes was verboten. Whatever, it’s way easier for me to see a Native5 rather than a Shaman in the Edgerati’s pedigree. But if this is Sal’s “racing Shaman”, I’m not going to argue. I’m still wondering how the straight-spine Stretches are Stretches.

ETA: With a Shaman in hand, I now get the “racing Shaman” idea and am starting to like it.

[Ramonade]

It’s… interesting. Looks a lot like a home modified Shaman to me, using custom made scales and a slightly reshaped blade. I would’ve preferred the original Shaman blade shape over the straight spine, personally.

I thought photographing the prototypes was verboten. Whatever, it’s way easier for me to see a Native5 rather than a Shaman in the Edgerati’s pedigree. But if this is Sal’s “racing Shaman”, I’m not going to argue. I’m still wondering how the straight-spine Stretches are Stretches.

Since pictures of it and the PITS 2 were everywhere I thought it wasn't a problem. If it is, I apologize to the crew for making a whole thread about it

For both the Edgerati and Stretches, the handle are the strongest similarity (well, on the SS Stretch 2 it's the same handle...). I have to admit that perimeter of the Edgerati's handle looks more like the shaman handle than the Native 5.

For the blade profile though, it's basically a bigger Native 5 blade with the swedge cleanly removed on a grinder ! Makes me want to try and do the same with one of mines

[Mushroom]

It’s… interesting. Looks a lot like a home modified Shaman to me, using custom made scales and a slightly reshaped blade. I would’ve preferred the original Shaman blade shape over the straight spine, personally.

I thought photographing the prototypes was verboten. Whatever, it’s way easier for me to see a Native5 rather than a Shaman in the Edgerati’s pedigree.

I believe Spyderco entered this model into the Blade Show and subsequently allows photos of it to be taken. Similar to last year when the Military 2 won American Made Knife of the Year, it was shown off and photographed but had not yet been officially revealed in a catalog yet. I believe the Edgerati won the “Most Innovative American Made knife” award.

I have also seen a photo of a PITS 2 that appears to have won the “Most Innovative Imported Knife” award.

[wrdwrght]

It’s… interesting. Looks a lot like a home modified Shaman to me, using custom made scales and a slightly reshaped blade. I would’ve preferred the original Shaman blade shape over the straight spine, personally.

I thought photographing the prototypes was verboten. Whatever, it’s way easier for me to see a Native5 rather than a Shaman in the Edgerati’s pedigree.

I believe Spyderco entered this model into the Blade Show and subsequently allows photos of it to be taken. Similar to last year when the Military 2 won American Made Knife of the Year, it was shown off and photographed but had not yet been officially revealed in a catalog yet. I believe the Edgerati won the “Most Innovative American Made knife” award.

I have also seen a photo of a PITS 2 that appears to have won the “Most Innovative Imported Knife” award.

PITS2!? Got a link?

[Ramonade]

PITS2!? Got a link?

I will oblige :

[Mushroom]

PITS2!? Got a link?

I have only seen one photo on Instagram -

Account - spydiearch - https://instagram.com/spydiearch?igshid ... BiNWFlZA==

Photo -
[img] - provided by Robin!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CtExoYtuGYz ... BiNWFlZA==

[wrdwrght]

PITS2!? Got a link?

I will oblige :

Thanks, Robin

BTW, my comment about photographing prototypes was not aimed at you, nor was it a criticism. I was trying confirm that awards are Spyderco’s new way of revealing what’s coming. Seems so, with the Military2 last year, and now the Edgerati and PITS2 this year. I’m sure in for the Military2 and PITS2. I’m too confused by the “racing Shaman”.

ETA: Much less confused now that I have a Shaman in hand.

[wrdwrght]

PITS2!? Got a link?

I have only seen one photo on Instagram -

Account - spydiearch - https://instagram.com/spydiearch?igshid ... BiNWFlZA==

Photo -
[img] - provided by Robin!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CtExoYtuGYz ... BiNWFlZA==

Thanks, Nick.

Dayem. Spydiearch’s image now has me interested.

[Ramonade]

Thanks, Robin

BTW, my comment about photographing prototypes was not aimed at you, nor was it a criticism. I was trying confirm that awards are Spyderco’s new way of revealing what’s coming. Seems so, with the Military2 last year, and now the Edgerati and PITS2 this year. I sure in for the Military2 and PITS2. I’m too confused by the “racing Shaman”.

Oh no worries, I just don't like to be part of the problem (when there is one), so sharing pictures that shouldn't be shared would annoy me.
But Mushroom comment talking about the fact that these knives are displayed because they won an award does confirm that there is no issue talking about it.

By the way, congrats to Sal for his new design getting an award and for a (I hope) future collaboration with Mike Read aka PITS

PS: Thanks for providing the source, I tried to find it but on facebook groups they tend to overshare, it's hard to find who did what !

[bearfacedkiller]

I like this. Some old school Spyderco quirkiness. I wonder if the blade stock is gonna be thinner than the standard shaman?

[ladybug93]

looks like it might be a button lock. i see comp lock design, but no cut out for lock access.

[wrdwrght]

OK, OK. I’m in. Well done, yet again, Spyderco. I see there is no end to my seduction.

[sal]

Hi Robin,

Yes, Photographs re not permitted at the prototype case at our booth. The pictures shown were taken at the Awards case, and not the prototype case at our booth.

sal

[Bolster]

I'm surprised to see the PITS2 in M398! And what an interesting blade shape. At first my eye saw a leaf blade with something covering the tip....ha ha, wrong!

It's a Wharnleaffe!

[Cl1ff]

Both are super interesting to me and definitely seem worthy of the awards.
The machining of the “Edgerati” looks really clean, the blade has a straight spine and is full flat ground. Maybe the only knife with so many cutouts that I have have ever been seriously interested in. It’s doesn’t look flimsy to me. I bet it would be simple to clean out actually.

The PITS2 is equally interesting. The mechanism looks really robust and the blade is very nice too. It looks like pretty good geometry.
Based on the reflection it also has an interesting new pocket clip.
I really want it.

I just thought of some cool mods you could do with the Edgerati’s handle too.

Congrats on the awards!

[riclaw]

I'd love to see the handle anodized blue like the KnifeJoy exlcusive Spydiechef. When the Edgerati is closed we'd see the contrast between the satin blade and anodized scales.

[Wartstein]

Like it! Style and also the ffg probably both thinner blade and pointier tip (than the original Shaman).
But I am pretty sure that it will come with a more "conventional" handle too ?

Then: Call me silly, but at first glance I can´t really see how to conveniently operate the comp.lock? I am sure I am missing something, perhaps someone can enlighten me?

[clinton1]

Both interesting! Glad to see new designs! Congrats on the awards, Sal and Spyderco!