TiCN/DLC food safety

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TiCN/DLC food safety

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Do folks know if the black coatings are OK for food prep? Thinking of a black bladed salt 2 at a campsite. That sorta thing.
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Safe? Ok? Scientifically speaking I have no idea. But I’ve eaten food cut with those blades and I turned out just fine!

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Im going to say DLC is. That stuff just does not come off. You pretty much have to scratch it with metal or sand it or something.

Ticn, I want to say no.
I was cleaning a new ticn pac salt with a wet paper towel and there was definitely a small amount of the coating that transferred over. As in, the paper towel got a dark color.
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prndltech wrote:
Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:03 pm
Safe? Ok? Scientifically speaking I have no idea. But I’ve eaten food cut with those blades and I turned out just fine!

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I folks are peeing TiCN with paper towels I want some of those.
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That I could find, there’s no established dangerous level of ingested TiCN. The Ti is pretty inert, and your food and air are largely made of carbon and nitrogen.

The MSDS I found also said no expected side effects to exposure.

Pretty sure you’re good to go
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I absolutely don’t know, and I also don’t know if the exact chemicals and mixtures of a specific process is identical independent of who or where the process is carried out.

For peace of mind I just use uncoated blades for food.
If I only carry a coated blade, that won’t stop me from cutting food, but it’s not something I plan for.
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Mrchunkle wrote:
Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:39 pm
The Ti is pretty inert, and your food and air are largely made of carbon and nitrogen.
This isn't how chemistry works.

For example, carbon and oxygen are great, but bond them together and they kill you.

Edit: one carbon atom and one nitrogen atom will kill you pretty effectively too.
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I'm sure according to California they both cause cancer.


I agree I think I'd trust Golden's DLC more than TiNC.
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I've wondered about this as well but then again, we have been eating from telfon coated pans and lead ceramic dishes for years so how much harm is an occasional bit of carbon or ti? 🤣
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I would be more concerned (but still not very) about stuff staying IN the DLC and then getting into the food, rather than the DLC rubbing off. I know from experience that DLC holds lubricants well, and I recently applied Sharpie to a DLC blade and then later gave up trying to remove the remainder after I sharpened it. Just a thought.

Like someone else said, I only use uncoated blades for food prep, but if forced to use an DLC blade, I wouldn't worry about it. I have no idea about TiCN, and don't own any.
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I've been using coated blades to cut up apples etc. for over a decade. Haven't had any issues.

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The chemical within the coatings may be individually toxic but not the final hard coating itself. There was a huge lawsuit against DuPont with leakage of perfluorooctanoic acid (AKA PFOA or C-8), used in making Teflon coating, into waters in West Virginia. The lawsuit was showcased in an excellent 2019 movie called “Dark Waters”.
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I've asked about this long ago, and did a little reading about it as well. What I found out is that TiCN blade coatings are food safe. I didn't look into DLC, because I don't have any.
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vivi wrote:
Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:32 am
I've been using coated blades to cut up apples etc. for over a decade. Haven't had any issues.
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I would imagine DLC would be food-safe. I rarely use folders on food, anyway. Though I do so occasionally, including a couple DLC blades. I don't coat my DLC blades with any other protectant, or anything like that, so no other chemicals are there to leech into my apple/fruit.

I'm sure there are lots of fast foods/junk foods that people stuff their faces with all the time that are more harmful to one's health than cutting a fruit with a DLC blade.

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I am no expert, but why do you think an uncoated blade is better? There can be elements in that blade steel, that itself are not good for you. Why should these elements stay in the uncoatet steel, while cutting food?

Just to be clear, I don't think that cutting food with any coated or uncoated blade is unsafe, just wanted to give another perspective
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Isn't there a bigger risk that you have some residual bacteria on the blade from edc use or just having it in your pocket when cutting up your apple than any coating releasing something?
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Don't forget the bacteria, that are already in the food. Or on the plate you cut the food. Or on your hand. Cooking usually is not sterile.
But bacteria and poisonous particles are two different things.
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