Watch out buying on secondary market

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Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby S-3 ranch » Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:24 pm

As the title says, watch out when buying 2nd hand , I bought what I thought were some good spyderco full serrated, and decided to send them in for a minor spa treatment, well holy cow
I just got a letter then a call from the service department, seems who ever “ cleaned up “ and resharpen them ruined them :mad: :mad:
So be carful of the 2ndary market

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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby Wartstein » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:30 pm

Really sorry for you! :( :

Which models where these? And will you get at least what you paid for them from whoever messed the knives up?

/ And I may recommend a Sharpmaker, so you can sharpen your SE knives yourself in the future - really no problem with this tool.
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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby JuPaul » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:30 pm

Did they explain how they were ruined? Like poorly sharpened?
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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby Evil D » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:38 pm

So wait, were they fake or did Spyderco ruin them? I don't get the ruined part.
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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby Wartstein » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:50 pm

Evil D wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:38 pm
So wait, were they fake or did Spyderco ruin them? I don't get the ruined part.
Wartstein wrote: Really sorry for you! :( :

Which models where these? And will you get at least what you paid for them from whoever messed the knives up?

/ And I may recommend a Sharpmaker, so you can sharpen your SE knives yourself in the future - really no problem with this tool.
Ah, ok, I did not realize that the OP sent them in to SPYDERCO... can hardly believe that they "ruined" the knives...? :confused:
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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby StuntZombie » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:56 pm

I'm a little confused. Did you send them to Spyderco, and they ruined the knives, or did you have the seller send them to Spyderco and they determined they were ruined when they got there?
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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby S-3 ranch » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:51 pm

No I bought them they seemed clean/ not abused, but couldn’t get a good edge on them myself, so I sent them to repair for a factory sharpening, then today received a letter from spyderco to call them, guy I talked to said who ever sharpen them they had ruined them and all needed to be reground , 1. Delica g-2 steel, 2. Endura spyder edge ats-55 3. Endura aus 8 I am sending back to seller for a refund ( because they probably were sharpen by same guy)
My fault for shopping on the internet for vintage knives I have lost or broken beyond repair

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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby S-3 ranch » Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:28 pm

Let me clearly state that spyderco did absolutely nothing wrong to my knives, it was the company that sold the knives that did the damage

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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby aaronkb » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:58 am

Sounds like he sent them into Spyderco and learned that the seller had previously messed up the knives while sharpening them.

Although I don’t know how they could have messed them up so badly...

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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby u.w. » Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:52 am

I don't see how one (being careful buying secondary) has anything to do with the other (sending those secondary market purchased knives in for "minor spa treatment").

As I read it, your post comes across a bit passive aggressive...

What specifically is the (your) issue?
Buying used knives, or knives off the secondary market?
Sending used knives in for "minor spa treatment"?
Having the company you send your used knives in to for "minor spa treatment" ruin them when "cleaning them up" and resharpening them?

Wartstein offers some solid advise on getting (and using) a Sharpmaker, if you don't already have one, to use for sharpening serrated edge (Spyderco) knives.

Just using "common sense" (I know, I know...), seems to me that Spyderco would Not ruin a knife. Seems like they might contact you (e-mail then call even maybe) to tell you the knife was beyond "spa treatment", or worn/used TO much...
Kinda difficult to wrap my head around the company that has their name on it, ruining their product though.
But then...

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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby GarageBoy » Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:12 am

What is meant by ruined? Were the teeth just super worn? (Hence Spyderco suggesting the regrind service?) That should have been visible in photos

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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby Spydergirl88 » Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:20 am

What company did you buy them from out of curiosity?

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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby TkoK83Spy » Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:44 am

GarageBoy wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:12 am
What is meant by ruined? Were the teeth just super worn? (Hence Spyderco suggesting the regrind service?) That should have been visible in photos
I was thinking the same, from the photos it should have been evident that they were pretty jacked up.
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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby S-3 ranch » Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:52 am

GarageBoy wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:12 am
What is meant by ruined? Were the teeth just super worn? (Hence Spyderco suggesting the regrind service?) That should have been visible in photos
Yes sadly, the teeth were just worn too thin for a minor spa treatment, the photos were different from what was delivered and described

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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby Oloung1 » Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:43 am

S-3 ranch wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:52 am
Yes sadly, the teeth were just worn too thin for a minor spa treatment, the photos were different from what was delivered and described
Ooof, that's a raw deal there. I can see why some buyers ask handwritten time stamps on online secondary sales now. It's not 100% foolproof but get you closer then without a time stamp showing current possession and condition.

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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby Jablang » Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:32 pm

Are you able to post those photos here?

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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby S-3 ranch » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:35 am

Jablang wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:32 pm
Are you able to post those photos here?
No photos are impossible without a photo app

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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby TazKristi » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:39 pm

S-3 ranch wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:35 am
Jablang wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:32 pm
Are you able to post those photos here?
No photos are impossible without a photo app
Hi, S-3 ranch:
You can attach images to posts. If you're replying to a post, click at the bottom to get into the full editor. At the bottom of the screen, you'll see a tab for attachments. Images can be attached there.

If you need help with an alternate option, take a look at this thread from another member (vivi), viewtopic.php?f=5&t=83968.

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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby RustyIron » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:52 pm

S-3 ranch wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:51 pm
who ever sharpen them they had ruined them and all needed to be reground
What's the price to have it reground? It might be worth it.

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Re: Watch out buying on secondary market

Postby S-3 ranch » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:16 pm

$20 , I am very curious about how much or how little steel will be gone after a regrind,


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