CPM REX 76, CPM REX T15, AND M398 and MT2!

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Re: CPM REX 76, CPM REX T15, AND M398 and MT2!

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Fireman wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:40 am
TomAiello wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:08 pm
legOFwhat? wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:37 am
Please be elastic ceramic or 15V or Vanax!
I'd love to see any of those. But having looked into buying Vanax for another project, I shudder to think what a Vanax mule would have to be priced at to break even.
I will pay whatever it takes to get a Vanax mule
Me too. I only have a couple Vanax knives, and one of them (Chad Kelly Coop) is in the running for 'the one knife I'll never, ever part with' (the other contender is my Phil Wilson Smoke Creek in K390).

If I had to consider pricing, availability, and shipping cost, my guess would be that a Vanax mule would land somewhere in the $200-$250 range. I'd gladly pay that for two of them. :)

I need to read Larrin's data more, but my experience so far has been that Chad's Vanax is holding an edge better than any of my Magnacut blades. Not sure about toughness, but it's ground pretty thin and seems to be holding up, so I'll call that 'so far so good'.
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Re: CPM REX 76, CPM REX T15, AND M398 and MT2!

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Fireman wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:41 am
The elastic ceramic is the one that I think I would hate to miss the most.
I only have the two Rahven kitchen knives in this material, but so far my impression is 'so good it's boring.' Totally stainless, nice and thin, stays sharp forever. I'd be curious to try the material in more outdoors tasks, but I'm also hesitant to really destructively test it. Maybe I need to just order up a couple duplicates and beat them until they break. My (not pushing it) impression so far is that the material might be better suited to a light duty EDC than a fixed blade outdoors knife. Maybe that's just the platform, though.
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Re: CPM REX 76, CPM REX T15, AND M398 and MT2!

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TomAiello wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 5:48 am
Fireman wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:40 am
TomAiello wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:08 pm
legOFwhat? wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:37 am
Please be elastic ceramic or 15V or Vanax!
I'd love to see any of those. But having looked into buying Vanax for another project, I shudder to think what a Vanax mule would have to be priced at to break even.
I will pay whatever it takes to get a Vanax mule
Me too. I only have a couple Vanax knives, and one of them (Chad Kelly Coop) is in the running for 'the one knife I'll never, ever part with' (the other contender is my Phil Wilson Smoke Creek in K390).

If I had to consider pricing, availability, and shipping cost, my guess would be that a Vanax mule would land somewhere in the $200-$250 range. I'd gladly pay that for two of them. :)

I need to read Larrin's data more, but my experience so far has been that Chad's Vanax is holding an edge better than any of my Magnacut blades. Not sure about toughness, but it's ground pretty thin and seems to be holding up, so I'll call that 'so far so good'.
Oh my, I was way off! On a side note I hope to one day get one of Chad's knives, I'd never let it go either! :cheap-sunglasses
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Re: CPM REX 76, CPM REX T15, AND M398 and MT2!

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Josh Crutchley wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:09 pm
legOFwhat? wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:37 am
Hmm. MT33(Rex 76),MT34(RexT15) and MT35(Magnacut) M398 is MT38, so MT36 & MT37? Please be elastic ceramic or 15V or Vanax!

Larrin on M398...viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87930
Here's the edge retention for rex 76 and T15 from Larrin; https://knifesteelnerds.com/2021/05/10/ ... 15-rex-76/

This may be a stupid question, but it is an honest one:
Is T15 the same as RexT15 :thinking
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Re: CPM REX 76, CPM REX T15, AND M398 and MT2!

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Senfkarte wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:54 am
Josh Crutchley wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:09 pm
legOFwhat? wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:37 am
Hmm. MT33(Rex 76),MT34(RexT15) and MT35(Magnacut) M398 is MT38, so MT36 & MT37? Please be elastic ceramic or 15V or Vanax!

Larrin on M398...viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87930
Here's the edge retention for rex 76 and T15 from Larrin; https://knifesteelnerds.com/2021/05/10/ ... 15-rex-76/

This may be a stupid question, but it is an honest one:
Is T15 the same as RexT15 :thinking
Yes, Crucible's name for AISI T15 is CPM REX T15
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Re: CPM REX 76, CPM REX T15, AND M398 and MT2!

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kerrcobra wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:37 am
Senfkarte wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:54 am
Josh Crutchley wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:09 pm
legOFwhat? wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:37 am
Hmm. MT33(Rex 76),MT34(RexT15) and MT35(Magnacut) M398 is MT38, so MT36 & MT37? Please be elastic ceramic or 15V or Vanax!

Larrin on M398...viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87930
Here's the edge retention for rex 76 and T15 from Larrin; https://knifesteelnerds.com/2021/05/10/ ... 15-rex-76/

This may be a stupid question, but it is an honest one:
Is T15 the same as RexT15 :thinking
Yes, Crucible's name for AISI T15 is CPM REX T15
Ok, thanks. I always thought CPM equals Crucible. And in the article from Larrin, he uses the name "CPM T15" and the Mule also hat the CPM in the name. So in my mind that resulted in two different but similar names from the same manufacturer.
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Re: CPM REX 76, CPM REX T15, AND M398 and MT2!

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I'm looking at buying my first mule (or two with this new list), and I've been eying a knife in CPM SPY27 anyways. Where could I get a sheath for a flat backed mule?
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Re: CPM REX 76, CPM REX T15, AND M398 and MT2!

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TomAiello wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 5:50 am
Fireman wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:41 am
The elastic ceramic is the one that I think I would hate to miss the most.
I only have the two Rahven kitchen knives in this material, but so far my impression is 'so good it's boring.' Totally stainless, nice and thin, stays sharp forever. I'd be curious to try the material in more outdoors tasks, but I'm also hesitant to really destructively test it. Maybe I need to just order up a couple duplicates and beat them until they break. My (not pushing it) impression so far is that the material might be better suited to a light duty EDC than a fixed blade outdoors knife. Maybe that's just the platform, though.
I did a mini torture test doing some pretty strong lateral force doing some bushcraft notches and was pretty impressed. I am not sure what the bevel angle is but it’s thin.
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Re: CPM REX 76, CPM REX T15, AND M398 and MT2!

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Osok-308 wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:48 am
Where could I get a sheath for a flat backed mule?
The boltaron sheath sold in Spyderco's online shop should work, the only difference seems to be they flattened the top of the spine so you still have three points of contact to keep the blade in place. We'll know for sure once it comes out.
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Re: CPM REX 76, CPM REX T15, AND M398 and MT2!

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legOFwhat? wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:37 am
Hmm. MT33(Rex 76),MT34(RexT15) and MT35(Magnacut) M398 is MT38, so MT36 & MT37? Please be elastic ceramic or 15V or Vanax!

Larrin on M398...viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87930
Some time ago, I had asked Sal for something in high hardness, cryo-ed, and low tempered K490. His reply came across as at least mildly interested, and while it’s not as exciting for most people, I’d like to see that as MT36 or MT37.
Have: old S30V Native, HAP40 Endura, ZDP DF2, S110V Manix LW, Cru-wear Para 3, SE H1 DF2, S90V Native 5, K390 Urban, SE Pac Salt, P.I.T.S., XHP Manix LW, SB Caly 3, B70P, PMA11, K03, Kapara, REX 45 Military, 154CM Manix LW, Swick, AEB-L Urban, KC Cruwear Manix, M390 PM2, Mantra 2, CruCarta Shaman, M390 Manix, K390 Police 4, S90V Manix LW, Rex 45 Manix LW, 20CV Manix, Rex 45 Lil’Native, Shaman, C208GP, Cruwear Manix, Cruwear Manix, M4 Chief, Z-max!!!

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Re: CPM REX 76, CPM REX T15, AND M398 and MT2!

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Any idea when is the sale day? I keep missing mules, really don't want to miss this time.
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I sure do wish they'd reconsider coming out with a mule in REX 45. Sal previously said there was no plan for it, so anyone else wanting this as well probably shouldn't hold your breath.
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Re: CPM REX 76, CPM REX T15, AND M398 and MT2!

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Wow, 4 mules revealed at once. Seems like my remaining budget for the year has been allocated :woozy .
I only wish the regular production mule did not have a straight spine. I prefer a slightly (downwards) curved spine which works better for the cutting style I use on some of my cutting tasks.

I'm curious about REX 76. According to Larrin's testing it is quite close to REX 45 in edge retention, toughness and hardness, but I wonder how different the sharpening response will be with the increased tungsten. I love how easy it is to bring REX 45 back to hair popping sharp.

It seems Spyderco/Sal took a cue from that article from Larrin, makes me wonder if MT36 or MT37 might be REX 121 :grin-big eyes
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I've seen Vanax prices on Eurotechni. It's expensive, but not that much more than steels like S90V.
Maybe importating it to the U.S.A. adds tremendous costs, but I somoehow don't think the Mule would end up costing $200+.

I'm especially interested in Rex 76 and T15, but also extremely happy the MT2 will come soon. The first handle I made for a Mule was on the MagnaCut Mule, and I gifted it to my father. Now, I want to do the same thing for my brother and mother.
Even if I'm going to start making blades myself very soon, It won't be with such nice steels.
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It seems Spyderco/Sal took a cue from that article from Larrin, makes me wonder if MT36 or MT37 might be REX 121 :grin-big eyes
Oh man, there's too much excitment already, stop it ! :squinting-tongue :bug-red-white
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Re: CPM REX 76, CPM REX T15, AND M398 and MT2!

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I've not been quick enough to get a Mule yet. Any of these new ones would be great. I see Kristi posts the release date for Mules a few days in advance for a couple of the past knives. Will they do that for these MT33, MT34, MT38? Is that the best way / source to find out the release date? Just take my money, Sal! >> [Edit] Sorry for the newbie question. Thanks TazKristi for reposting the obvi answer to this one.
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Re: CPM REX 76, CPM REX T15, AND M398 and MT2!

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BearShark44 wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 3:23 pm
I've not been quick enough to get a Mule yet. Any of these new ones would be great. I see Kristi posts the release date for Mules a few days in advance for a couple of the past knives. Will they do that for these MT33, MT34, MT38? Is that the best way / source to find out the release date? Just take my money, Sal!
Hi, BearShark44:
Welcome to our forum! Yes, I will announce the release dates for each Mule as we near their release (usually 1-2 weeks before). We'll also announce it through our social media pages.

We hope you enjoy your time with us!

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Seeing M398 this high makes me smile.
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I might go for an M398, but honestly the one that intrigues me the most is the T15. After reading Larrin's article for at least the 3rd time, he seems genuinely puzzled it never became a knife steel. That has to mean something.
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Does anyone know what REX stands for in the names of Crucible "High Speed Steels For Cutting Tools"?

I assume it's an acronym for something. REX is only used in the names of Crucible high speed tool steels. I suppose REX could just mean king, but that'd be kind of uninspiring.
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cjk wrote:
Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:21 am
Does anyone know what REX stands for in the names of Crucible "High Speed Steels For Cutting Tools"?

I assume it's an acronym for something. REX is only used in the names of Crucible high speed tool steels. I suppose REX could just mean king, but that'd be kind of uninspiring.
You know what, I've just searched for 30min after reading your post and found nothing on the name ! But I've read a ton of older thread about REXsteels, mainly here (since I already have read Larrin's articles :nerd ).
There was a lot to read about Cobalt. Here's a link of a thread Doc Dan started about REX121 : viewtopic.php?f=2&t=68699
It's not related to your question but bluntcut did provide a lot of information on the REX steels.
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