MT30 - what's your guess?

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MT30 - what's your guess?

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Are you betting on MagnaCut aka Larrinite? ;) After all, it sounded like Sal and the gang ordered the material some time ago.

Or is it gonna be Rex-121?

Or Vanax?

15V?

Or Vanadis 8?


I'm putting my money on......









... Rex-121. MagnaCut will be MT32. :cool:
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JRinFL wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:22 am
Norse Bog Iron with a serpent twist down the center.

Larrin, why haven't I heard about this yet? What can you tell us about it?
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I'd agree, probably not Magnacut.

I think Rex 121 and Vanax SC are pretty good guesses..... Or maybe I just want them to be good guesses.
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I think it's going to be one of the steels already mentioned. It would be cool to have something in a high tungsten tool steel like RexAAA or REX95. There's also 2 steels that PSM Industries made T15HV and T42HV but I never seen it used anywhere.
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After the Spy27 mule team was announced I was thinking about what other steels Spyderco might use in the mule. There were some sprints in Rex45 and S45VN, so I thought these were good candidates for the next mules. A bit later the S45VN mule was announced, so my guess is that MT30 will be Rex45.
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I wold like to see MT30 with MagnaCut, but don’t think so, because of the excitement around the new steel.
Probably it will be the some Rex...
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Jefke wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:21 pm
so my guess is that MT30 will be Rex45.
If it will be, why would they delay to announce it since they know how to make this steel right ?
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Tally-ho wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:55 pm
Jefke wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:21 pm
so my guess is that MT30 will be Rex45.
If it will be, why would they delay to announce it since they know how to make this steel right ?
You never know maybe they decided to run the higher profit margin knives first. Then supply could have run low pushing off its release as a mule.
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I would probably guess REX 121. Sal has already said that he was testing it in a Sage LW I believe.
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My bet is either z-ware or Rex121
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I think it will be REX 45.
My reasoning / guess for the delay: all the REX 45 Sprints were more important,
Native Chief had a long delay;
so, either steel availability issues or Golden factory running on full capacity for all the other models.
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Joshcrutchley1 wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:05 pm
Tally-ho wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:55 pm
Jefke wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:21 pm
so my guess is that MT30 will be Rex45.
If it will be, why would they delay to announce it since they know how to make this steel right ?
You never know maybe they decided to run the higher profit margin knives first. Then supply could have run low pushing off its release as a mule.
Like Joshcrutchley1 says, they may have had issues with getting enough supplies. It took therm a fairly long time for all the Rex45 sprints to be delivered (though I can't speak from experience if it was longer than usual, but I think there were already 2 new reveals before most of them got delivered).
By that same logic, it might as well be Z-wear as the Z-wear/micarta Shaman was close to a year in the making.

If it's neither of these, then I'm guessing 15V (if I remember correctly they are working on a 15V folder designed by BBB?)
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I forgot about SRS-13. Sal was asking for feedback about this steel in a mule team in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86149

So now I've named 4 candidate steels for MT30, yeah I have no clue :rolleyes: . I'll have to wait and see.
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Joshcrutchley1 wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:53 am
I think it's going to be one of the steels already mentioned. It would be cool to have something in a high tungsten tool steel like RexAAA or REX95. There's also 2 steels that PSM Industries made T15HV and T42HV but I never seen it used anywhere.
T15HV seems fairly close to CPM-T15. Do you have any thoughts on how it might be different?

My metallurgy-fu isn't strong enough to even guess, really.
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TomAiello wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:12 pm
T15HV seems fairly close to CPM-T15. Do you have any thoughts on how it might be different?

My metallurgy-fu isn't strong enough to even guess, really.
T15hv C-1.85/Cr-5/W-13/V-6.9/Co-5
Cpm-t15 C-1.6/Cr-4/W-12/V-4.9/Co-5
Maxamet C-2.5/Cr-4.8/W-13/V-6/Co-10
Z-Max C-2.0/Cr-4.0/W-10/V-5/Co-9

It has 2% higher vanadium and a .25% bump in carbon. I would imagine it would produce more vanadium carbide hence the H(igh)V(anadium)tag. In all honesty I don't know because the Cr also went up 1%. I do know after Cr gets too high you start to get vanadium enriched M7C3 instead of pure VC.
They're probably not far off from one another though. Z-max and Maxamet have more carbon so they might form more carbides.
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K490 would be great for MT-30
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We've had CPM S35VN. Maybe this will finally be the long-delayed CPM S30V Mule! :p :D
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The Meat man wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:45 pm
We've had CPM S35VN. Maybe this will finally be the long-delayed CPM S30V Mule! :p :D
I'm still waiting on that Gin-1 mule :D
There's a few ingot and PM steel pairs I'd like to try in a mule team like 154CM/CPM-154 and D2/CPM-D2.
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