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what determines what steels are tested and used for a mule team knife? Will I see one in H2?
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I asked the same thing a few months ago, and the consensus was that there would not be an H2 Mule Team. Bummer.

Personally, I'd love to have one. You never know...
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Would be cool
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Mules tend to be steels that Spyderco hasn't used previously, or not used much. I would not expect to see a mule in a steel that has been used for a while by Spyderco.

Mules are a way for us try a different steel. Wild guess, but I suspect Mules are also a way for Spydero to get their grind and heat treatment figure out for a steel that is new to them.
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huyfishin wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:44 pm
what determines what steels are tested and used for a mule team knife? Will I see one in H2?
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David R wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:25 pm
Mules tend to be steels that Spyderco hasn't used previously, or not used much. I would not expect to see a mule in a steel that has been used for a while by Spyderco.

Mules are a way for us try a different steel. Wild guess, but I suspect Mules are also a way for Spydero to get their grind and heat treatment figure out for a steel that is new to them.
isn't h2 technically a new steel not currently used on any spyderco knife?
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Yes, but it is similar enough to H-1 that I would expect it to have similar issues when grinding. H-1 was always hollow ground for a reason, and Mules have all been flat-ground for uniformity. ZDP-189 was already in use when MT04 was released, but there wasn't an H-1 Mule due to issurs with flat-grinding it.
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yablanowitz wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:57 am
Yes, but it is similar enough to H-1 that I would expect it to have similar issues when grinding. H-1 was always hollow ground for a reason, and Mules have all been flat-ground for uniformity. ZDP-188 was already in use when MT04 was released, but there wasn't an H-1 Mule due to issurs with flat-grinding it.
Ahhh i forgot how h1 is only hollow grind. Now I see why its not possible to do the h2 mule team
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huyfishin wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:32 am
David R wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:25 pm
Mules tend to be steels that Spyderco hasn't used previously, or not used much. I would not expect to see a mule in a steel that has been used for a while by Spyderco.

Mules are a way for us try a different steel. Wild guess, but I suspect Mules are also a way for Spydero to get their grind and heat treatment figure out for a steel that is new to them.
isn't h2 technically a new steel not currently used on any spyderco knife?
Yes. Excellent point. I was thinking it was very similar to H1, but it may not be.
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It is "a new steel", but the composition is 99.9% the same as H-1 (well, I'm sure at least a couple of percent of difference is needed for another name, but you catch my drift)
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Thought H2 is just H1 made by a different maker (steel place in Japan) so couldn’t be called H1 and tweaked a touch not to infringe…
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IIRC Sal said something to the effect that they will have H2 out in production models well before they would be able to get a mule done, so there won’t be an H2 mule.

Of course I can’t recall where I saw that, so I might be totally wrong.
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SchoonerBum wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:00 pm
IIRC Sal said something to the effect that they will have H2 out in production models well before they would be able to get a mule done, so there won’t be an H2 mule.

Of course I can’t recall where I saw that, so I might be totally wrong.
You mean this?
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Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:55 am
I don't think we'll be making a Mule Team for H2. We have quite a few Mules in-the-works and by te time an H2 Mule would come to the market, we will already have thousands of H2 knives being used.

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yablanowitz wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:26 pm
SchoonerBum wrote:
Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:00 pm
IIRC Sal said something to the effect that they will have H2 out in production models well before they would be able to get a mule done, so there won’t be an H2 mule.

Of course I can’t recall where I saw that, so I might be totally wrong.
You mean this?
sal wrote:
Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:55 am
I don't think we'll be making a Mule Team for H2. We have quite a few Mules in-the-works and by te time an H2 Mule would come to the market, we will already have thousands of H2 knives being used.

sal
Yep, that’s what I was thinking of! Thanks!
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