Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby endgame » Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:49 am

I have the originals with black aluminium handles and absolutly love them.cant wait to get the titanium.I like aluminium better the g10 so I wont get these but I will get the ti

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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby Donut » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:11 pm

I didn't see where it was said that there was going to be a titanium version.
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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby SpeedHoles » Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:52 pm

Donut wrote:I didn't see where it was said that there was going to be a titanium version.
Cara Cara 2 I believe...
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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby Donut » Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:09 pm

SpeedHoles wrote:
Donut wrote:I didn't see where it was said that there was going to be a titanium version.
Cara Cara 2 I believe...
Oh yeah, I did see that one. :)

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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby Blerv » Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:49 am

These look excellent. Might be too good to pass up :D.

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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby Donut » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:02 pm

I want to post pictures of the Raven 2 vs the Lightweight Manix, the Raven has a thicker blade. I think they're good competition for each other.
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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby SpeedHoles » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:14 pm

Donut wrote:I want to post pictures of the Raven 2 vs the Lightweight Manix, the Raven has a thicker blade. I think they're good competition for each other.

Well please do! :)

Do you have a Crow 2 as well, by chance? Throw it in to the mix also!


My Crow 2 is taking a long time since I added it to my HAP40 preorder that hasn't been fulfilled nor shipped yet...
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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby Donut » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:30 pm

I have it, but there isn't much to compare that to!
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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby SpeedHoles » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:33 pm

Donut wrote:I have it, but there isn't much to compare that to!


Size wise? Or just saying it's of sub par quality...???
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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby sal » Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:44 pm

I designed the Raven 2 to be more like the Military. Many of the features are similar to the Military and the Raven 2 uses a USA made steel. I carry mine quite a bit.

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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby Donut » Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:56 pm

SpeedHoles wrote:
Donut wrote:I have it, but there isn't much to compare that to!


Size wise? Or just saying it's of sub par quality...???
Size wise. There aren't many thick bladed small Spydercos outside of the Techno. It's a little longer than a Dragonfly 2 and quite a bit thicker.
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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby jaco » Sun Oct 25, 2015 3:19 pm

So far with Spyderco there's nothing to say than it is so great all the time. I always am fun with it and in fact I have bought more for a sort of collections.

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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby sal » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:12 pm

Hi Jaco,

Welcome to our forum and thanx for the kind words.

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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby SpyderEdgeForever » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:07 am

Sal, thank you for your great designs, customer service, kindness and generosity, and making peoples' knife dreams come true :)

I and others here care about you!

Also a question: has there ever been any talk about using Sandvik stainless steel of some type for Byrd knives? Would that be a good idea?

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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby sal » Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:26 pm

The plan is to use a Sandvik steel for some of the Chinese made Spyderco's. It's still in progress, but slow.

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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby sparky2016 » Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:05 am

araneae, thanks for the great pictures.

These look like really nice quality knives. I really like my Robin 2. Though I use it only for opening packages and the like, I really enjoy using it. I'm a rabid fan of the choil.

These two don't seem to be getting as much attention as they deserve. I'm not sure BD1 is well-understood, even after all this time.

And maybe people don't think about byrd when they're looking for a heavier use knive? I assume that's what the thick blade is about. And though I love a massive slab of steel as much as the next man, I wonder if the added weight and cost is the right tradeoff here.

Is an FRN version likely? Or does the design suggest not?

Has anyone commented elsewhere on how similar the specs of the Raven 2 are to the Paramilitary 2?

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                           Raven 2             Paramilitary 2
length overall        7.83" (199 mm)          8.281" (210 mm)
blade length          3.41" (87 mm)           3.438" (87 mm) 
cutting edge          2.80" (71 mm)           3.078" (78 mm) 
blade thickness       0.15" (3.8 mm)          0.141" (3.5 mm) 
length closed         4.42" (112 mm)          4.812" (122 mm) 
weight                4.2 oz (119 g)          3.9 oz. (111 g) 
blade steel           CTS BD1                 CPM S30V 
handle material       G-10                    G-10
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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby bennyowen857 » Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:21 pm

Robin 2 is really good for all purpose I guess. Because I have one in my house I I usually use it almost everyday for all purpose.
So far, I have no experience it get rust and the blade is still sharp even for how many use.

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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby Nishidake » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:37 pm

sparky2016 wrote: Has anyone commented elsewhere on how similar the specs of the Raven 2 are to the Paramilitary 2?

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                           Raven 2             Paramilitary 2
length overall        7.83" (199 mm)          8.281" (210 mm)
blade length          3.41" (87 mm)           3.438" (87 mm) 
cutting edge          2.80" (71 mm)           3.078" (78 mm) 
blade thickness       0.15" (3.8 mm)          0.141" (3.5 mm) 
length closed         4.42" (112 mm)          4.812" (122 mm) 
weight                4.2 oz (119 g)          3.9 oz. (111 g) 
blade steel           CTS BD1                 CPM S30V 
handle material       G-10                    G-10
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This is what I'm excited about! The form factor and lines of the Raven 2 are almost identical to the PM2, excluding about the last 1/5th of the handle and the palm swell on the spine side. Within the value lines it seems like the Raven 2 is to the Tenacious as the Paramilitary 2 is to the Manix 2 in terms of overall footprint. Looks like a great alternative high value folder for someone who doesn't connect with the ergos of the Tenacious.

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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby Donut » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:58 pm

I think the Raven 2 blade remains thicker as you travel down the blade.
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Re: Crow & Raven 2 Full Review

Postby goTomek » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:09 pm

My Crow just arrived :cool: I have much fun with small blade and relatively big choil. It holds similar to Sage 1.
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