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by BigKenbo
Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:57 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

In this case don't make comparisons to US made knives and don't make steel comparisons. That is missing the point which is that for some unexplained reason Japanese G10 is super expensive. It is simple, there has been a clear history of the Seki City knives that use G10 being very expensive while t...
by BigKenbo
Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:45 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

I’ve just my 1st Endura, the SuperGold version, and wonder whether I’ll need the frn P4 now. I feel the same. The Endura gives me all I need, at a perfect, long, but not TOO long bladelength... but then, the thread I started very recently ("advantages of 4 " plus blades" https://forum.spyderco.com/...
by BigKenbo
Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:27 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

Interestingly enough I was curious enough myself the other night to look into exactly what the general "standard" was when it came to upcharging for stuff like DLC and G10 for the same model. Unlike every other time I have done something similar like this, I was diligent enough this time to actuall...
by BigKenbo
Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:24 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

Arent they all Spyderco? We arent talking about Chevy vs Toyota here right? Why would we not be able to look at how Golden Spyderco prices, and then be able to expect consistency throughout the Spyderco lineup? I believe it is unwarranted upcharge. And from what i have learned today it is, and has ...
by BigKenbo
Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:20 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

Arent they all Spyderco? We arent talking about Chevy vs Toyota here right? Why would we not be able to look at how Golden Spyderco prices, and then be able to expect consistency throughout the Spyderco lineup? I believe it is unwarranted upcharge. And from what i have learned today it is, and has ...
by BigKenbo
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:14 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

I think there is a misunderstanding between the G-10 being the sole issue for the complete "$75" upcharge, because those are some THIN G-10 slabs. Comparing the treatment of ZDP-189 and HAP40 to K390 is the biggest factor for the price increase, IMO. If you look at the hardness that Seki (and Moki)...
by BigKenbo
Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:20 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

I think there is a misunderstanding between the G-10 being the sole issue for the complete "$75" upcharge, because those are some THIN G-10 slabs. Comparing the treatment of ZDP-189 and HAP40 to K390 is the biggest factor for the price increase, IMO. If you look at the hardness that Seki (and Moki)...
by BigKenbo
Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:36 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

Totally legit!!! I feel the same way about maxamet. I dont have any K390. And i dont disparage it. But its more expensive than a freakin Millie in S110V. I feel the price is off. Thats all. Once you've broken a Maxamet blade like I have, you might prefer K390 over it (as I do). And the s110v Millie...
by BigKenbo
Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:00 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

Maxamet and K390 are both at the top end of my personal steel choices. In a larger blade, I prefer the toughness advantage of K390, but I think the choice between them comes down to the platform for me. For the P4, I'd rather have K390 than Maxamet, personally, and that's even though when all is sa...
by BigKenbo
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:55 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

Id pay 250 for a maxamet P4 and not bat an eye, although i know that will not happen. That part doesn't make sense to me. K390 and Maxamet are both "super steels." K390 is tougher, sharpens more easily and as far as I know resists corrosion better. Maxamet will hold an edge longer, but takes more t...
by BigKenbo
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:46 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: s30v spyderco's acceptable
Replies: 110
Views: 2929

Re: s30v spyderco's acceptable

Zero issues with the performance of S30V here. I admit i rarely carry my native in S30 because i have a few others i like better, but it has NEVER let me down. And honestly having come from the "old school" with Tru-sharp etc. I can tell you S30V is so much better than what we have been using for a ...
by BigKenbo
Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:39 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

Thanks for the engagement everyone. I appreciate the opportunity very much. I have learned some things. Broadened my horizons, and am focused on an FRN version of the Police 4. Hopefully it will so beasty i have to have the G10 version as well!!! Be blessed everyone and thanks again.
by BigKenbo
Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:53 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

The upcoming P4 FRN will be the knife I have been wanting for years, a larger Endura 4. I dont care if its twice the price of a VG10 E4, the steel is better and its bigger. No brainer for me. Agree but be please be aware the E4s i have been referencing are in their own right, premium steel offering...
by BigKenbo
Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:10 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

Late to the party but as much as I love the Endura in all its variations the Police 4 (and older Police SS) are really special. The Police 4 is the BIG lockback Military I've always wanted and although it is too big for me to carry as an EDC I really treasure it. The thin handle makes it carry comf...
by BigKenbo
Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:05 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

Happy to help. If you do some searching there have been a few threads discussing the issue. I am a huge fan of the Police4. I actually have two of them and will likely buy as many variations of it as they make. Definitely in for a VG10, a K390 and a ZDP if all three come to fruition. I would also b...
by BigKenbo
Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:17 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

anagarika wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:02 am
I was excited initially too about P4 FRN.

OP’s post has me thinking with Enduras and Cara Caras I have, plus CS Broken Skull (longer blade similar to P4, thin & lightweight).
Will a P4 FRN at 140$ be good buy for me? :o
at 140 bucks a throw might even consider picking up two!
by BigKenbo
Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:14 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

In this case don't make comparisons to US made knives and don't make steel comparisons. That is missing the point which is that for some unexplained reason Japanese G10 is super expensive. It is simple, there has been a clear history of the Seki City knives that use G10 being very expensive while t...
by BigKenbo
Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:38 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

You are way overthinking it all. It isn't really steel choice or the extra 1/4 inch or so of blade length it is just the g10. It has been discussed many times that the G10 knives made in Seki lack value. It has unfortunately killed a few great models. The D'Allara3, Q-ball and Ouroborous for exampl...
by BigKenbo
Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:31 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

The Police 4 is a pretty svelte knife. (There is a word I don't use often). I mean, you don't realize until you get it in hand how refined it is. I guess I am saying, you definitely get what you pay for. The K390 is what pushed me over the edge, but then when I had it in hand I realized how special...
by BigKenbo
Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:23 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4
Replies: 83
Views: 1783

Re: Im keeping my enduras. No to the police 4

I was pretty skeptical of K390 at first, but its become a favorite. Haven't used HAP40 but ZDP is a great steel, I can understand questioning needing more than that. The HAP40 is a touch easier to sharpen and wears the edge a touch faster than the ZDP-189. The differences could be closer than what ...

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