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by FCM415
Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:10 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: yet another "price increase"
Replies: 73
Views: 4963

Re: yet another "price increase"

*Talking to myself* I never had a problem with the 5% yearly increase to keep up with set margins. But please don't increase MAP anymore. It won't bring back Blockbuster...or JC Penney...or Woolworth. Only winners are customers who live within 200 miles of a fully stocked Spyderco dealer who gets to...
by FCM415
Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:10 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: price increase?!
Replies: 170
Views: 9413

Re: price increase?!

Yearly 5% appears to be universally accepted and understood. It’s those MAP increases that burns. To me it’s disgusting. Trend so far is every two years. We’ll see if this continues Xmas of next year. maybe this is what i was thinking about. did this just happen a few months ago? i wouldn’t call it...
by FCM415
Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:26 pm
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: price increase?!
Replies: 170
Views: 9413

Re: price increase?!

Yearly 5% appears to be universally accepted and understood.

It’s those MAP increases that burns. To me it’s disgusting. Trend so far is every two years. We’ll see if this continues Xmas of next year.
by FCM415
Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:34 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: Cost Cutting on Sprderco's Higher End Models, Why?
Replies: 147
Views: 11325

Re: Cost Cutting on Sprderco's Higher End Models, Why?

We need more MAP to make us feel these cost cut Spyderco's seem more valuable.

20% should do it for 2019.
by FCM415
Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:39 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: MAP illegal?
Replies: 49
Views: 5209

Re: MAP illegal?

Yep inflation is normal... Sadly I guess it is normal, and intentional, but I wouldn't say it's natural. Probably shouldn't go too far down the monetary and economic rabbit hole here, but this excerpt from Keynes (in 1919! :eek:) is a good read: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/shared/min...
by FCM415
Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:42 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: MAP illegal?
Replies: 49
Views: 5209

Re: MAP illegal?

*eta, the best "deals" anymore are on discontinued models and when Ebay has 10%, 15%, or 20% off coupons that can be applied to Spydercos without the dealers violating MAP. Also, inflation is a beach and it continually creeps and squeezes everywhere. It's not limited to Spyderco and it's not really...
by FCM415
Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:27 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: MAP illegal?
Replies: 49
Views: 5209

Re: MAP illegal?

Hopefully this will help some, I'm paraphrasing myself from a while back... MAP and price fixing are actually quite different concepts. MAP is legal and involves the manufacturer's right to impose resale price restrictions vertically along their distribution chain (wholesalers, dealers). Price fixi...
by FCM415
Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:20 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: MAP illegal?
Replies: 49
Views: 5209

Re: MAP illegal?

Anyone with such luck...Please PM me or share with the forum of a brick and mortar dealer we can call and order from that can price match pre online MAP prices or better.
by FCM415
Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:16 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: MAP illegal?
Replies: 49
Views: 5209

Re: MAP illegal?

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm fairly sure the decisions you refer to were about industry wide price fixing, where multiple sellers of similar products (like music CD's) collude and agree not to undersell one another. I think MAP is more like an end run around the 1975 repeal of the old Fair Trade Laws,...
by FCM415
Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:15 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: MAP illegal?
Replies: 49
Views: 5209

Re: MAP illegal?

What Deacon said. There's nothing that says dealers can't offer a discount through an unadvertised "sale". Basically a dealer can sell at any price they want, but they can't advertise any prices below that 40% off threshold. *35% I wonder why the handful of dealers who used to "add to cart for pric...
by FCM415
Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:11 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: MAP illegal?
Replies: 49
Views: 5209

Re: MAP illegal?

double
by FCM415
Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:32 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: MAP illegal?
Replies: 49
Views: 5209

Re: MAP illegal?

It's fine Jabba. My intent is clear. My conscience is clear. If anyone wants to engage in mature discussion it would be nice. If anyone wants to call me names, or act like they are mind readers, that's on them. I am sorry that you interpret any of this including my deletion of a tongue and cheek pre...
by FCM415
Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:15 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: MAP illegal?
Replies: 49
Views: 5209

Re: MAP illegal?

I am looking for some clarity. It is ok if my interpretation is wrong. Its such a grey area
by FCM415
Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:08 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: MAP illegal?
Replies: 49
Views: 5209

Re: MAP illegal?

Where is the "bashing and attacking"? You asked to get called names and bashed, which *is* literally trolling. I then refuted your claims with facts from the link you provided. I didn't call names, bash you, or attack you. I disputed your assertation of illegality. I don't know how much more ration...
by FCM415
Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:50 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: MAP illegal?
Replies: 49
Views: 5209

Re: MAP illegal?

I want clarity on the subject please.
by FCM415
Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:46 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: MAP illegal?
Replies: 49
Views: 5209

Re: MAP illegal?

And I see you edited your original post, which invited people to bash you and call you names. I guess you didn't think it would be noticeable enough in that post, so had to make it it's own post to really try to get people angry. But I'm not playing your game. Ok, let the OP bashing, deflections be...
by FCM415
Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:44 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: MAP illegal?
Replies: 49
Views: 5209

Re: MAP illegal?

Jabba, follow your own advice and ignore the thread or post dog pictures. Make peanut butter jokes. Yes I knew I was gobna get bashed and attacked. It was yongue and cheek but decided to take it down. First response was exactly what the deleted part predicted. You played right into it. Response, was...
by FCM415
Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:39 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: MAP illegal?
Replies: 49
Views: 5209

Re: MAP illegal?

Raising legal matters is trolling.

Make it go away!
by FCM415
Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:38 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: MAP illegal?
Replies: 49
Views: 5209

Re: MAP illegal?

" Thus, from the 1975 enactment of the Consumer Goods Pricing Act to the 2007 Leegin decision, resale price maintenance was again no longer legal in the United States." "Between 1995 and 2000 music companies were found to have used illegal marketing agreements such as minimum advertised pricing to a...
by FCM415
Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:33 am
Forum: Spyderco General Discussion
Topic: MAP illegal?
Replies: 49
Views: 5209

Re: MAP illegal?

Let the deflections, logical fallacies, and OP bashing begin.

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