Hey y'all, just wanted to let you know about a company that takes your money and never sends you your knife. I ordered a white endura from greatknivesgreatprices.com with ups 2 day air on October 9th. After never receiving a tracking #(and still never receiving the knife). I have emailed 4 times with no reply and tried at least 6 times to call with only a voice mail box that is full. I finally called my bank today to get my money back.
Has anyone else had a problem with these guys? Just thought I'd give a heads up as I'm sure many of you order online. Also, if this is against any forum rules, let me know, I didn't see anything that said this would be restricted. Thanks- E
Spyderco Internet Scam
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El Comanche
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Spyderco Internet Scam
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never heard of those guys, thanks for the info and im glad you got your $$ back
im a paranoid person when it comes to internet buying, my one peice of advise is to never fill out info over the web and if they offer a number to call, call it !! and place your order by phone and get a tracking number with a confirmation number aswell
i like http://www.knivecenter.com for all new items, i have never had a problem and talking to them is pleasant
if they do not offer a number to call I DONT BUY and if i were to call and the voicemail is full i wouldnt buy also
gald you got your money back, youre lucky
im a paranoid person when it comes to internet buying, my one peice of advise is to never fill out info over the web and if they offer a number to call, call it !! and place your order by phone and get a tracking number with a confirmation number aswell
i like http://www.knivecenter.com for all new items, i have never had a problem and talking to them is pleasant
if they do not offer a number to call I DONT BUY and if i were to call and the voicemail is full i wouldnt buy also
gald you got your money back, youre lucky
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B&M stores are still the most reliable, but most of the time, online retailers offer cheaper price.
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spyderHS08
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newgraham and knives plus. always great for me. and both i can order by phone.
thanks for the heads up tho
thanks for the heads up tho
39 & counting...
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Dodo!
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Dodo!
GreatKnivesGreatPrices.... yeah !!!!
Stay away from them. I have had similarly bad experiences with them. I prefer to give my business to someone else. Little did he know how much I do buy especially Spyderco products. It's a lesson to be learnt. Not like it's rocket science. Treat each and every customer with respect and honesty. Mistakes happen, but an open door policy and treat others as you would like to be treated and customers will always go the extra mile to recommend you and buy COPIOUS amounts of stuff from you :D
(tangent story: My Dad and I came from New Zealand to Australia in the height of summer. I was a University student with little money, my Dad was dressed like a dag (Aussie slang for.... not so cool looking :p ). We wanted to buy 2 second hand cars. Car dealer was racist and was closing doors on the cars as we were inspecting them... I mean whilst we are looking in the car itself !. We were insulted, but kept our cool and walked away. Went to the dealership next door and bought 1 brand new car, and 1 second hand car - with CASH !!!!! :D Drove past to say hello to the dealer :D We had just sold our home and most assets in NZ to migrate to Australia. Ended up buying lots of stuff with cash, and only dealt with people who helped us and were courteous to us even if we were sweating like pigs and dressed like hobos.
GreatKnivesGreatPrices as far as I know are drop-shipping, and seldom have the stock they advertise, and also they plain lie to you about the deals which you have already paid for. Stay well clear. I have learnt my lesson. Others have as well. I believe there was a massive email newsletter that was sent out by them to all his customer base a few months ago. He forgot to use BCC: but used CC: instead. So everyone was sending emails to his whole customer database telling each other of how much of a crook he is. I didn't do that, but it was not so funny to see the amount of people that really hated him.
Stay away from them. I have had similarly bad experiences with them. I prefer to give my business to someone else. Little did he know how much I do buy especially Spyderco products. It's a lesson to be learnt. Not like it's rocket science. Treat each and every customer with respect and honesty. Mistakes happen, but an open door policy and treat others as you would like to be treated and customers will always go the extra mile to recommend you and buy COPIOUS amounts of stuff from you :D
(tangent story: My Dad and I came from New Zealand to Australia in the height of summer. I was a University student with little money, my Dad was dressed like a dag (Aussie slang for.... not so cool looking :p ). We wanted to buy 2 second hand cars. Car dealer was racist and was closing doors on the cars as we were inspecting them... I mean whilst we are looking in the car itself !. We were insulted, but kept our cool and walked away. Went to the dealership next door and bought 1 brand new car, and 1 second hand car - with CASH !!!!! :D Drove past to say hello to the dealer :D We had just sold our home and most assets in NZ to migrate to Australia. Ended up buying lots of stuff with cash, and only dealt with people who helped us and were courteous to us even if we were sweating like pigs and dressed like hobos.
GreatKnivesGreatPrices as far as I know are drop-shipping, and seldom have the stock they advertise, and also they plain lie to you about the deals which you have already paid for. Stay well clear. I have learnt my lesson. Others have as well. I believe there was a massive email newsletter that was sent out by them to all his customer base a few months ago. He forgot to use BCC: but used CC: instead. So everyone was sending emails to his whole customer database telling each other of how much of a crook he is. I didn't do that, but it was not so funny to see the amount of people that really hated him.
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I guess I was one of the lucky ones. I picked up a delica from him almost a year ago and other than the shipping being a bit slow I got my knife. Seems that people are burning up the internet talking about this guy. Here is a link to a huge thread about the people he has scammed. If it's not okay to post this link please remove. I just think it fair that everyone gets a chance to read this mess. I'm sorry for anyone that has been ripped off by this individual.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... p?t=538835
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... p?t=538835
Sometimes you gotta kick at the darkness until it bleeds daylight.
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liveit_loud on Ebay.
AKA: Liveitloud on Blade Forums, USN, EDC, Benchmade forums and basically everywhere but here.
liveit_loud on Ebay.
too good to be true
With good knife sellers like New Graham and One Stop Knife Shop I have no need to even go anywhere else. I would have to have a lot of recommendations to even think of trying some of these other obscure websites.spyderHS08 wrote:newgraham and knives plus. always great for me. and both i can order by phone.
thanks for the heads up tho
When you get on a website and they have Spyders that have been discontinued for some time and they offer them at very fair prices you better run the other way as fast as you can. It's like the old buyer beware slogan that's been around for some time>>> "If it seems too good to be true then it probably is"
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Understand your annoyance with this seller. Not sure what, other than the fact it was an Endura you ordered, makes you call it a "Spyderco Internet Scam". Would bet the same thing may have happened if you ordered one of any of the other brands those folks clamin to sell. The seller's business practices have nothing to do with any particular brand, all knife buyers need to beware equally.
As for scam avoidance, I agree with everyone else who has replied to this. It is well worth the few dollars more you may pay to deal with one of the many reputable sources available. I would only add that, even when dealing with totally reliable dealers, it pays to make sure an item is in stock before electing to pay extra for expedited shipping. Even if the dealer is diligent and ships it to you the same day he receives it, having something shipped "next day air" or "two day air" three weeks from now is rarely cost effective.
As for scam avoidance, I agree with everyone else who has replied to this. It is well worth the few dollars more you may pay to deal with one of the many reputable sources available. I would only add that, even when dealing with totally reliable dealers, it pays to make sure an item is in stock before electing to pay extra for expedited shipping. Even if the dealer is diligent and ships it to you the same day he receives it, having something shipped "next day air" or "two day air" three weeks from now is rarely cost effective.
Paul
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WTC # 1458 - 1504 - 1508 - Never Forget, Never Forgive!
I bought a knife this shop on ebay some months, but it was a Boker not a Spyderco. He sent me the serrated version, but I had ought the PE-version. I emailed him, returning the knife would be ok...and I almost did it. Then outta nowhere I decided to take a look on the GBU on bladeforums and found the thread Bluntrauma has posted. I felt like a quite lucky bastard...
The history of the shop changes depending on where you find it (highschool project, grandpa started business in 60s etc.) and there are a LOT of pissed-off customers. He pretends to make things right but it looks like this going nowhere. Sad to hear that he's still ripping off people.
The history of the shop changes depending on where you find it (highschool project, grandpa started business in 60s etc.) and there are a LOT of pissed-off customers. He pretends to make things right but it looks like this going nowhere. Sad to hear that he's still ripping off people.
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I just read the thread on bladeforums and checked out his websites where he appears to lie about his company's history:
http://www.greatknivesgreatprices.com/s ... about/Page
http://www.bladebid.com/asp/storecatalo ... outstore=1
The evidence seems to point to a man who will say anything to separate people from money without compensation or avoid responsibilty for doing it the right way. This guy looks like a piece of work. Many have already been ripped off. IMO keep your money far away from Andrew Kunz.
http://www.greatknivesgreatprices.com/s ... about/Page
http://www.bladebid.com/asp/storecatalo ... outstore=1
The evidence seems to point to a man who will say anything to separate people from money without compensation or avoid responsibilty for doing it the right way. This guy looks like a piece of work. Many have already been ripped off. IMO keep your money far away from Andrew Kunz.
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NGK and SpydieGuys are my two choices.
NGK uses UPS which I love and SG lives less than an hour away so I pay for ground shipping and still get it over night most of the time. :)
NGK uses UPS which I love and SG lives less than an hour away so I pay for ground shipping and still get it over night most of the time. :)
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Greatknivesgreatprices aka Anderw Kunz is a CROOK....BEWARE people.
Comanche,El Comanche wrote:Hey y'all, just wanted to let you know about a company that takes your money and never sends you your knife. I ordered a white endura from greatknivesgreatprices.com with ups 2 day air on October 9th. After never receiving a tracking #(and still never receiving the knife). I have emailed 4 times with no reply and tried at least 6 times to call with only a voice mail box that is full. I finally called my bank today to get my money back.
Has anyone else had a problem with these guys? Just thought I'd give a heads up as I'm sure many of you order online. Also, if this is against any forum rules, let me know, I didn't see anything that said this would be restricted. Thanks- E
I'm sorry that you fallen victim to this guy. Please research before buying from online retailers. He has victimized countless knife buyers on many forums and auction sites. Please check the link I've posted and follow up with law enforcement. This guy needs to be stopped.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... p?t=538835
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Greatknivesgreatprices aka Andrew Kunz is a CROOK....BEWARE people.
El Comanche,El Comanche wrote:Hey y'all, just wanted to let you know about a company that takes your money and never sends you your knife. I ordered a white endura from greatknivesgreatprices.com with ups 2 day air on October 9th. After never receiving a tracking #(and still never receiving the knife). I have emailed 4 times with no reply and tried at least 6 times to call with only a voice mail box that is full. I finally called my bank today to get my money back.
Has anyone else had a problem with these guys? Just thought I'd give a heads up as I'm sure many of you order online. Also, if this is against any forum rules, let me know, I didn't see anything that said this would be restricted. Thanks- E
I'm sorry that you have fallen victim to this guy. He has a notorious reputation, and has victimized countless knife buyers on many forums and auction sites. Please check the link I've posted below, and follow up with law enforcement with all of your documentation. This guy needs to be stopped....he gives our community a bad name.
People.....please research before buying from online retailers, especially those who you haven't dealt with previously.
GreatKnivesGreatPrices aka Andrew Kunz
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Man this guy has a horrible reputation, on Blade forums he is a criminal...lol
I ordered a Microtech Ultratech 8 from him, and after I ordered I seen all the terrible feedback he has. I was thinking I just give him 250 bucks for nothing...By the grace of God I recieved my MTUT8 within a week of ordering... I hate it for all the folks he has done wrong...
I ordered a Microtech Ultratech 8 from him, and after I ordered I seen all the terrible feedback he has. I was thinking I just give him 250 bucks for nothing...By the grace of God I recieved my MTUT8 within a week of ordering... I hate it for all the folks he has done wrong...
Spyderskin A.K.A. hissatsu1 :spyder:
Blood Soaked Serrations!, Thats how I roll...:cool:
Blood Soaked Serrations!, Thats how I roll...:cool:
I would strongly recommend that anyone who has had an issue with the sites mentioned belonging to Andrew Kunz file a complaint with the FBI's IC3 (Internet Crime Complaint Center). You can find it here http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx.
The more people who file a complaint, the better. If you really want to see him stopped, report him to the appropriate authorities.
Kristi
The more people who file a complaint, the better. If you really want to see him stopped, report him to the appropriate authorities.
Kristi
There is nothing more important than this one day.
Thats good to know. I haven't had any dealings with the guy but its good to know who to report his kind of buisness too. Thanks.
In the time of chimpanzees, I was a monkey.
Give us clear vision, that we may know where to stand and what to stand for - because unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything.
~ Peter Marshall, US Senate Chaplain 1947
Give us clear vision, that we may know where to stand and what to stand for - because unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything.
~ Peter Marshall, US Senate Chaplain 1947