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Teleporting can be dangerous. Has anyone seen the 1958 movie The Fly?
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Doc Dan wrote:
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Teleporting can be dangerous. Has anyone seen the 1958 movie The Fly?
He’s right you know.
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Well here we go folks, we have three dimensional printing, and now here is a new version of it, that is akin to the Star Trek concept:

https://bgr.com/2019/02/01/3d-replicato ... ght-study/

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/ ... ce.329408/

https://lifeboat.com/blog/2019/02/watch ... replicator

Please also visit this website and check out the products and the information: Energy from the vacuum. demoncase and Doc I want both of your comments on this idea, please: The idea is based on known particle physics: Space is not empty but is filled with and made up of a seething energetic substance, the ancients called it ether or aether or the firmament and moderns call it virtual particles or the vacuum state which is really a plenum. The idea is that this does not violate thermodynamic law to extract energy and mass from it because it is the root of energy and mass, and, once we can develop a "virtual state engineering technology" we can do everything from make custom designed super molecules that are defined at the SUB-atomic level (take that one on for size, nanotechnology people!!!), and shrink and increase mass and do things that are to nanotechnology as nanotechnology is to knapped stone technology.

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Anyone here watching STD?
It’s...not great... that said if it wasn’t a Star Trek I think it would be fine.
The complete disregard for the half century of history makes the show a bit cringey...
the technology side also just dosnt really add up given that this is prior to OS..
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Daveho wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:32 pm
Anyone here watching STD?
It’s...not great... that said if it wasn’t a Star Trek I think it would be fine.
The complete disregard for the half century of history makes the show a bit cringey...
the technology side also just dosnt really add up given that this is prior to OS..
Ah, I try to watch out for STDs. :eek:
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as we are on season 2 of the show I’m guessig I have heard variations of that joke almost daily for a couple of years now.
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Daveho wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:33 pm
as we are on season 2 of the show I’m guessig I have heard variations of that joke almost daily for a couple of years now.
Sure, but the first time here. :)
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Crux wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:36 pm
Daveho wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:33 pm
as we are on season 2 of the show I’m guessig I have heard variations of that joke almost daily for a couple of years now.
Sure, but the first time here. :)
True-
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Makes me think of when I was in japan watching the rally and they kept yelling STI on the PA.
It was quite hilarious... but only to me.. out of the few hundred folk there.
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In Star Wars they have faster-than-light travel, but nothing like mobile telephony. Really? In Star Trek the transporter is way underutilized. So many issues can be solved by off-label transporter uses. Medical help, for example.
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Daveho wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:32 pm
Anyone here watching STD?
It’s...not great... that said if it wasn’t a Star Trek I think it would be fine.
The complete disregard for the half century of history makes the show a bit cringey...
the technology side also just dosnt really add up given that this is prior to OS..
That show is so bad I avoid it like other STD's. I cannot believe it is even called Star Trek. What moron put that together?
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SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:30 am
Well here we go folks, we have three dimensional printing, and now here is a new version of it, that is akin to the Star Trek concept:

https://bgr.com/2019/02/01/3d-replicato ... ght-study/

Very intriguing. Thanks for sharing this. Who knows, perhaps one day we will have the power to transform one material to another? Perhaps, a real replicator is on the way in, say 100 years.
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You can thank Bryan Fuller and Alex Kurtzman for destroying Star Trek.... hopefully the new Picard series will be better
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Daveho wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:05 am
You can thank Bryan Fuller and Alex Kurtzman for destroying Star Trek.... hopefully the new Picard series will be better
Even the recent movies, though entertaining, were not true to Star Trek. I hope a new writer and director will take over and do a better job.
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I'm still wondering what happened to Captain Kirk? Image
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As someone in healthcare, and a cancer survivor, I look at the transporter technology from a medical viewpoint.

A tumor is not inoperable if you can remove it on a cellular level with a transporter device. Whole lot less invasive than surgery too.
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I do not think a transporter that disassembles and reassembles atoms will be much of a thing for transporting living things. I think it more likely that some sort of a field generated around the living being that protects from atmosphere and sudden acceleration and deceleration, or lack thereof, and uses a tractor beam and anti-gravity, or some other propulsion will be found more useful and safe.

When you disassemble the atoms of a living creature, it is killed and though it would be reassembled, it would no longer be living. That is how a disruptor works.
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That's not true! Kirk, Spock and team did it all the time. I've seem them do it with my own eyes.
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Doc, thank you for reading that article I posted about the new 3d printer. I think it is a good conceptual idea, too, and it leads to people thinking about something else: We know that matter/atoms can be broken down into protons, neutrons, and electrons, and it is said that a neutron is just a compressed proton and electron together. This means that what we have are electrons and protons, if you ignore the idea of smaller fundamental particles below those, it is okay because you can assemble these protons and electrons into atoms.

Now, imagine a replicator device that is energy based and is able to break atoms down to a plasma of protons and electrons, and rebuild them into any object you want, within certain limits. Perhaps Star Trek's writers are right, and reproducing the subtleties of human conscious thought patterns is not possible; but, we could still benefit from producing goods that way and also repairing damaged cells and materials.
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Crux wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:38 pm
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Even the transporter has been achieved somewhat when they actually dematerialized and transported a particle to another location and rematerialized it.
Wasn't that really just a fax machine of sorts? The original is still gone. Taken to the next level what good would it do you if you were destroyed on one end and copied exactly on the other. You are still gone. The copy may be there but you surely aren't.

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demoncase, here is a Star Trek type question for you:

We know that materials such as iron and steel and plastic are at their basic components electrons, just arranged in different forms. What type or level of technology would it take, to be able to somehow focus and concentrate electrons and electricity, to directly build and form materials and even finished products, directly from electrons and electric fields, without the need for all of the intermediate steps that are involved in modern industry? It would be like a replicator that works on electricity and forms the atoms directly from the electricity. What would be needed to make this work?
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